roll bar/ roll cage

Dave1695 · 09-20-2012, 12:27 PM

I'm considering changing my roll bar from MS to CM to save some weight., who makes the best fitting kit for a 67 Camaro Stock Eliminator?

Tom Goldman · 09-20-2012, 01:07 PM

Most kits are a compromise as far as fit,verses ease of installation for the general public. . ...Pre notched kits still need major fitting.
The main hoops are usually ok,but the majority use a halo bar for the cage ,which is ok on some older large cars, but makes keeping the front bars out of the drivers line of site very difficult on newer cars with high windshield angles.
The halo is also usually inboard more ,so it puts the window net much closer to the driver at the top.
S&W's are good kits,I've used a lot of them for customers who want to keep the cost down and a quick turn around ,and want a generic cage.
I usually order them with longer legs on the hoops and fit them to my liking.

buzzinhalfdozen · 09-20-2012, 02:01 PM

very few kits I've used fit very well without some major tweaking....if you have someone near you with the ability to custom bend the tubing you'd be better off in my opionion. A custom bent cage always leaves much more driver room, which is important for most racers.Joe

treessavoy · 09-20-2012, 02:05 PM

If S&W can build a perfect roll bar for a '64 Plymouth I'm sure that one for a well known combination as an early Camaro would fit easily.

My vote is S&W, had them in three of my cars, very happy with them.

JimR

hookdaddy · 09-20-2012, 06:06 PM

I cast my vote too - for S&W, but then again . . . . I might be biased.
Call 800-523-3353 and get Tom ext 126 or Randy ext 115 they'll take good care of you.

Run to Rund · 09-20-2012, 06:19 PM

6 point bar or cage? ART custom bent the CM hoop for my 6 point (GM A body). The other pieces were straight tubing which I fitted myself with my trusty slag grinder. The weight went down from about 74 lb to 45.

Doug Domm · 09-20-2012, 11:19 PM

We put an S&W bar in my 67 Chevelle and it was really slick to work with. Every pre notched joint was bang on and the fit looks better than if it had been OE. We just finished putting a new bar in my 68 Camaro and custom bent everything in house and the time and effort was far greater than the S&W install. Two thumbs up for the S&W stuff and they are really good folk to work with.

Mark Markow · 09-21-2012, 07:49 AM

we normally bend our own stuff at my shop, but i have put in a few s&w kits, and the fit was pretty good. but as Tom suggested earlier i would ask them to leave the ends a little longer so you get get a perfect fit.

Dave1695 · 09-21-2012, 12:23 PM

Thanks for all the advise, S&W was at the top of my list, I won't do the install myself, but want to make the job as easy as possible.

09-20-2012, 12:27 PM	#1
Dave1695 Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 160 Likes: 0 Liked 15 Times in 11 Posts	roll bar/ roll cage I'm considering changing my roll bar from MS to CM to save some weight., who makes the best fitting kit for a 67 Camaro Stock Eliminator?

09-20-2012, 01:07 PM	#2
Tom Goldman VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Allentown,PA Posts: 2,468 Likes: 874 Liked 838 Times in 232 Posts	Re: roll bar/ roll cage Most kits are a compromise as far as fit,verses ease of installation for the general public. . ...Pre notched kits still need major fitting. The main hoops are usually ok,but the majority use a halo bar for the cage ,which is ok on some older large cars, but makes keeping the front bars out of the drivers line of site very difficult on newer cars with high windshield angles. The halo is also usually inboard more ,so it puts the window net much closer to the driver at the top. S&W's are good kits,I've used a lot of them for customers who want to keep the cost down and a quick turn around ,and want a generic cage. I usually order them with longer legs on the hoops and fit them to my liking. __________________ Tom Goldman 1500 SG , 1506 STK

09-20-2012, 02:01 PM	#3
buzzinhalfdozen Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bellevue Ohio Posts: 984 Likes: 0 Liked 11 Times in 8 Posts	Re: roll bar/ roll cage very few kits I've used fit very well without some major tweaking....if you have someone near you with the ability to custom bend the tubing you'd be better off in my opionion. A custom bent cage always leaves much more driver room, which is important for most racers.Joe __________________ Joe Buchanan SS/BX 3117

09-20-2012, 02:05 PM	#4
treessavoy VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Dunnellon,FL Posts: 1,103 Likes: 0 Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: roll bar/ roll cage If S&W can build a perfect roll bar for a '64 Plymouth I'm sure that one for a well known combination as an early Camaro would fit easily. My vote is S&W, had them in three of my cars, very happy with them. JimR __________________ Jim Rountree

09-20-2012, 06:06 PM	#5
hookdaddy Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ocala Florida Posts: 254 Likes: 0 Liked 8 Times in 3 Posts	Re: roll bar/ roll cage I cast my vote too - for S&W, but then again . . . . I might be biased. Call 800-523-3353 and get Tom ext 126 or Randy ext 115 they'll take good care of you. __________________ Don Scholl d.scholl@comcast.net 145Y Stock - 145H Super Comp

09-20-2012, 06:19 PM	#6
Run to Rund Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 583 Likes: 8 Liked 54 Times in 27 Posts	Re: roll bar/ roll cage 6 point bar or cage? ART custom bent the CM hoop for my 6 point (GM A body). The other pieces were straight tubing which I fitted myself with my trusty slag grinder. The weight went down from about 74 lb to 45.

09-20-2012, 11:19 PM	#7
Doug Domm Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: canada Posts: 250 Likes: 28 Liked 84 Times in 21 Posts	Re: roll bar/ roll cage We put an S&W bar in my 67 Chevelle and it was really slick to work with. Every pre notched joint was bang on and the fit looks better than if it had been OE. We just finished putting a new bar in my 68 Camaro and custom bent everything in house and the time and effort was far greater than the S&W install. Two thumbs up for the S&W stuff and they are really good folk to work with.

09-21-2012, 07:49 AM	#8
Mark Markow Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: east hartford ct. Posts: 539 Likes: 0 Liked 9 Times in 3 Posts	Re: roll bar/ roll cage we normally bend our own stuff at my shop, but i have put in a few s&w kits, and the fit was pretty good. but as Tom suggested earlier i would ask them to leave the ends a little longer so you get get a perfect fit. __________________ Mark Markow 171 ss/tb

09-21-2012, 12:23 PM	#9
Dave1695 Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 160 Likes: 0 Liked 15 Times in 11 Posts	Re: roll bar/ roll cage Thanks for all the advise, S&W was at the top of my list, I won't do the install myself, but want to make the job as easy as possible.