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[sammy pizzolato]

hp should be the same in all cars with that combo unless it is a waggon or a stick.that is how it used to be.just saying!

[Tom Moock]

1978 & 1978 350 malibu wagon got hp, twice, once with camaro & corvette and the next time with the camaro, but the corvette stayed the same, I don`t think there a malibu wagon that runs .50 under with 350. I would think the corvette, gto, firebird & camaro should all be the same hp. Tom

Originally Posted by sammy pizzolato

hp should be the same in all cars with that combo unless it is a waggon or a stick.that is how it used to be.just saying!

That's stupid, a Corvette has no advantage over an 04 GTO? Or an earlier nova that would the same engine ?

[junior barns]

Originally Posted by Todd Hoven

That's stupid, a Corvette has no advantage over an 04 GTO? Or an earlier nova that would the same engine ?

I don't know if that is what they are saying, but it is what I would say. I have seen some drag coefficient studies comparing these firebirds to corvettes to 69 camaro's to older mustangs and until you got above 135mph you didnt see any advantage! I would think a Nova would be real close to this also??

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by sammy pizzolato

hp should be the same in all cars with that combo unless it is a waggon or a stick.that is how it used to be.just saying!

It was when Farmer was taking care of it. LOL

[69Cobra]

Originally Posted by sammy pizzolato

hp should be the same in all cars with that combo unless it is a waggon or a stick.that is how it used to be.just saying!

If its the same platform then yes Camaro/Firebird, Mustang/Capri (for the years they made them) but if the platform is different for example wheelbase then no. I race a 69 Cobra with a 117" wb with a 428CJ. A Mustang with the same motor combo but shorter wb and physically smaller and more aerodynamic shouldn't effect my car even tho its the same engine.

[Ed Wright]

So, you think the engine's HP should be altered to fit the car?

Like, if you choose to build the wrong car for it, you should get a gift to make your wrong choice more competitive?

If a given engine is under rated in one car, it's under rated in any other. I'm certainly with Sammy here.

[sammy pizzolato]

thanks ED. it just does not make any sense for a corvette to be 45 hp less than a firebird or a camaro.is a firebird or a camaro better than a corvette.i don't think so!

[Stewart Way]

So if you don't think the HP should be different depending on the the platform, should the HP for a given engine be the same for SS and GT? The GT car is just a different platform. If they should be the same, no need to have GT, just move them into the same lb/hp class. At least have same HP and index since the "platform" was the reason for the lower indexes in GT.
I agree there are some bad factors like the vette Sammy mentioned, but I still think platform is important to consider. Your as old as I am and likely remember the stink when NHRA decided to put the vettes in SS and do away with SP classes.
Or does the platform arguement only hold in stock?

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by Stewart Way

So if you don't think the HP should be different depending on the the platform, should the HP for a given engine be the same for SS and GT? The GT car is just a different platform. If they should be the same, no need to have GT, just move them into the same lb/hp class. At least have same HP and index since the "platform" was the reason for the lower indexes in GT.
I agree there are some bad factors like the vette Sammy mentioned, but I still think platform is important to consider. Your as old as I am and likely remember the stink when NHRA decided to put the vettes in SS and do away with SP classes.
Or does the platform arguement only hold in stock?

Stewart, most of the GT cars are drastically different. The GT Camaro/Firebirds aren't, but they are no longer the "hot set up". Many of those newer cars aren't actually built by the rule book. Look how many drivers can't even reach the dash, how many heads behind the B piller (rule book says they can't be), etc. Those are just Comp cars with no hood scoop. I don't, thankfully, have to race them heads up. I do think those should be rated differently. The conventional RWD platforms, I do not. It would be a mess to factor the jelly bean FWD conversions differently than other GT cars, and it's becoming all jelly beans in GT anyway. I really do think they are cool, just don't want to race them heads up. I sure would not build a Camaro/Firebird GT car and expect to run up front. If you do, congrats.