HP adjustments after the Dutch - posted

[boster]

Tilburg , what I stated is that the rule say 1.20 automatic Hp . I have hit the trigger and got HP . The last time I got HP my roll cage was not legal but I still got HP . I did not mean to go 8.44 with the wrong roll cage but it happened and I still got HP . The same rule should apply to everyone 1.20 under you get HP thats the only thing I commented on .

Buy a cobra jet and hit my combo dont bother me a bit everyone else does

Curious was it your car or a customers car that paid you to do the motor ? Surely you're not telling your customer to do his own stuff instead of having you mess it up are you

My engine builder also made a mistake at Indy in 08 and I got a year off for the mistake

[B Parker]

Bo So if I claim a 350 ci and during tear down they find that It's really a 400 ci the 350 should still get hp. Are you serious. You think that a roll bar is the same as something not right with a motor. Now I have run Brian's stuff for many years and have been threw many Indy tear downs. Nobody needs to defend him. He has always been first class and so has his work. As far as I'm concered there is no one any better doing stock and super stock engines. Barry Parker one very satisfied customer.

[boster]

This is about a car going 1.20 under and on the qualifying sheet , then saying it had the wrong heads and no consequences for the party involved .

My buddy at the race went 1.201 under and got HP and was not torn down .He thinks the timing system could have been off by a thousands or two but he still got hp as did 3 other cars . The 402 should have got HP according to the rules .

I have no axe to grind or no intent to disrespect Brian Tilburg or the driver of the Nova my issiue is with the rule and how it was interpertid at the event .

So now for the record if you dont pass tech 1.20 runs dont count ? what happens if you dont get torn down they count ? so if you make a mistake and dont get caught then its ok ? and if you make a mistake and come clean at tear down you dont get punished for the mistake ?

Thats not how it work for me at the races

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by boster

This is about a car going 1.20 under and on the qualifying sheet , then saying it had the wrong heads and no consequences for the party involved .

My buddy at the race went 1.201 under and got HP and was not torn down .He thinks the timing system could have been off by a thousands or two but he still got hp as did 3 other cars . The 402 should have got HP according to the rules .

I have no axe to grind or no intent to disrespect Brian Tilburg or the driver of the Nova my issiue is with the rule and how it was interpertid at the event .

So now for the record if you dont pass tech 1.20 runs dont count ? what happens if you dont get torn down they count ? so if you make a mistake and dont get caught then its ok ? and if you make a mistake and come clean at tear down you dont get punished for the mistake ?

Thats not how it work for me at the races

So a guy running a legal car should get HP because a guy running a car with the same combination that won't pass tech went fast? That's how it works for you at the races?

[boster]

No , thats how it works in your world . In my world I get a year off and HP . Wow you really could not bring yourself to say illegal car could you. LMAO

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by boster

No , thats how it works in your world . In my world I get a year off and HP . Wow you really could not bring yourself to say illegal car could you. LMAO

Bo, it is you that claims the 402 Nova should get HP, despite the car not passing tech, it is not me.

[boster]

Alan , the only thing Im claiming is the rules should be the same for everyone and that's not what happened at the Dutch .

Instead of racer's complaining that the rules are not same for everyone we are bickering between our selves about who's right and who's wrong .

We should be talking about why the rules arent the same for everyone.

Simple example's

At the Dutch not every car that went 1.20 under was not torn down . Why were some and others not ?

Why does one driver with the wrong vales get supenden and other not ?

A few years ago a 428 cj went 1.20 under at a div1 race and got hp but was light at the scales still got the hp.

That's what concerns me, yes I think based on what I have seen and experinced the nova should get the HP

[BLAZER]

This is the same old S--T,NHRA class racing will never be the same since nhra and manufactures wanted and allowed BOGUS H/P in--Cheating has been around since--day1--junior johnson built my 2 motor years ago--chevy orange when i brought them in--gray when i picked em up BTW fast in the day!

[Jim Whitehead]

Lets not loose sight of the fact that Brian said, he thought ALL 1.20 runs should go to the barn. Bo it is not possible at all race's for NHRA to tear down all fast runs, so they do random checks. NHRA is trying to police us as much as they can, and someone is always going to be mad. Their is no logic period! to put horse power on a motor or combo that fails tech. I don't know why some get a year off and some don't, it must be the way NHRA determines the infraction. If they think it was a flagrant infraction or possible mistake, maybe they also look at if they think it is performance enhancing or not. I am a big advocate for all playing by the same rules, but some times there are gray areas.

Jim

[Lew Silverman]

So are we saying that the driver of the vehicle in question DID receive some sort of punishment for having an engine that didn't pass tech?

If the engine in the vehicle HAD passed the tech inspection the combination would have received an automatic HP increase, correct?

Fair is fair!

But what about his first-round opponent in Class eliminations? Shouldn't he have been reinstated after the vehicle in question didn't pass the tech inspection?

Lew