Copo camaro on racing junk - Page 4

Ed Wright · 11-06-2012, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SPS

Obviously, you don't know me or my years of involvement with Super Stock and the manufacturers, so comments of a "hater" are simply ridiculous!

I have been involved with and built racecars from all 3 manufacturers, and I too am glad to see them all involved.

I'll take your comments as coming from a keyboard wannabe racer who doesn't understand the sport or comittment and leave it at that.

Any further comments can be addressed to me at my shop -- not hard to find me.

FJ

FJ, you forgot add no-name. LOL

boster · 11-06-2012, 07:27 PM

I won the lotto to get a car #34, order what I thought was the best combo of the bunch (white / 427 ) then decided I did not want the car as I was very happy with what Ford was doing and they did not take the bale out money which I disagreed with giving to GM and Chrysler . I sold it to another racer ( at my cost ) who's dream was to own one .

Car was paid for in full , GM dealer held 90k for 8months interest free , car was to be delivered at the end of June , got it on 10/26 . Gm did not do racers any favors , cars have been delivered out of order , some people and dealers have been given special favors on deliveries and the blower cars wont stay together for more then 3 runs .

Gm required that you sign and agreement stating that they were not responcible for any defects in the cars before you got delivery . Ford , locate a car , pay the dealer , leave with the car. But the guy who purchase my car fulfilled his lifetime dream and thats all its really about . If you want to buy the car on ebay spend your money and enjoy it . Life is to short to sweat the little things .

FJ Smith knows is stuff and has built some of the best Stock & Super Stock ( Ford , GM, Mopar ) cars on the planet , I know I owned one and wish I had never sold it

GUMP · 11-06-2012, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright

FJ, you forgot add no-name. LOL

Joel is actually a pretty cool dude. He comes to all the LTX Shootouts and has a pretty fast F-Body. He is also pretty good at putting a cold Michelob Ultra in your hand! I would suggest that he is very enthusiastic about the COPOs and doesn't really know the history of many people that post on this forum.

Maybe if we work on him we can convince him to convert that car of his to a Super Stocker!

GUMP · 11-06-2012, 08:04 PM

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Car was paid for in full , GM dealer held 90k for 8months interest free , car was to be delivered at the end of June , got it on 10/26 .

I liked the way that GM did things. I was able to take my certificate to my local dealer and offer him the opportunity to make a little extra money. I paid 1% over his cost. I didn't give him one penny down and paid him two weeks before I picked up the car.

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Gm did not do racers any favors , cars have been delivered out of order

Actually they did help some racers out. They did their best to get the first batch of cars ready for those who would be at Indy. It is obvious that I am one of those guys who was actually passed over. I have no issues at all with what they did. Infact I agree with it. I took photos next to number two while I was at the build site. I really doubt that that guy was unhappy either. Everyone should understand the deal with car number 69.

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Gm required that you sign and agreement stating that they were not responcible for any defects in the cars before you got delivery .

Legal speak. I have personally witnessed them go above and beyond on another COPO.

Obviously we both have a different take on this. My COPO experience so far has been awsome.

I will let the other COPO owners tell their own stories if they wish.

Ed Wright · 11-06-2012, 08:10 PM

FJ did not deserve that.

Looked like something you would see on yellow bullet.com

GUMP · 11-06-2012, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright

FJ did not deserve that.

Agreed.

Hemi Moose · 11-06-2012, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by c and w racing

gump, whats the story on the red one that sold? I must not have heard it, or because my memory is getting bad, dont remember anything about it.
Chuck

x2...so what gives?

GUMP · 11-06-2012, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Hemi Moose

x2...so what gives?

My point was that not all things are as they appear. It is not my place to tell someone elses COPO story. I would probably get it wrong anyway! Maybe, in time, someone directly involved will tell it.

joelster · 11-06-2012, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SPS

Obviously, you don't know me or my years of involvement with Super Stock and the manufacturers, so comments of a "hater" are simply ridiculous!

I have been involved with and built racecars from all 3 manufacturers, and I too am glad to see them all involved.

I'll take your comments as coming from a keyboard wannabe racer who doesn't understand the sport or comittment and leave it at that.

Any further comments can be addressed to me at my shop -- not hard to find me.

FJ

My apologies! I'm not a wannabe though, far from it. I'm not going to be building or racing a SS car anytime soon, just come in here to shoot the breeze.

George Lyons · 11-07-2012, 06:04 PM

I thought I would chime in on the COPO discussion to clear up a few points from what I know firsthand. I am in line for a 427 N/A car and scheduled to take delivery on November 19th. I have had the good fortune of establishing some great relationships with the group at GM responsible for these cars coming to life.
1. GM did in fact work to get some cars in dedicated racers hands as early as possible. Not every racer was accommodated, an impossibility, but we can easily see that more than a few early delivered COPO's have been on the track from the earliest available completions.
2. Yes, some cars will surely become garage queen collector cars but GM really did try and select people that would campaign these cars, some very seriously and other more in the vein of a weekend warrior type fun drag car. Sounds like the old days to me, huh?
3. The COPO assembly facility in Michigan is very much on schedule and contrary to what some are saying, it looks like all 68 cars will be built and delivered in calendar 2012. If they miss, I'll bet it will be only a few cars finished in January but my guess is they will finish on time.
4. Most importantly: look one over when you get a chance. The build quality is outstanding. There are incredible details on these cars that really set them apart from the Ford and Chrysler offerings and it sure looks like their performance on the strip will very competitive as they evolve even more.
So yes, I am a little biased, but those are the facts.
I'm thrilled to be getting one soon and waiting for Spring for the fun to begin.

11-06-2012, 07:27 PM	#32
boster Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: usa Posts: 958 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Copo camaro on racing junk I won the lotto to get a car #34, order what I thought was the best combo of the bunch (white / 427 ) then decided I did not want the car as I was very happy with what Ford was doing and they did not take the bale out money which I disagreed with giving to GM and Chrysler . I sold it to another racer ( at my cost ) who's dream was to own one . Car was paid for in full , GM dealer held 90k for 8months interest free , car was to be delivered at the end of June , got it on 10/26 . Gm did not do racers any favors , cars have been delivered out of order , some people and dealers have been given special favors on deliveries and the blower cars wont stay together for more then 3 runs . Gm required that you sign and agreement stating that they were not responcible for any defects in the cars before you got delivery . Ford , locate a car , pay the dealer , leave with the car. But the guy who purchase my car fulfilled his lifetime dream and thats all its really about . If you want to buy the car on ebay spend your money and enjoy it . Life is to short to sweat the little things . FJ Smith knows is stuff and has built some of the best Stock & Super Stock ( Ford , GM, Mopar ) cars on the planet , I know I owned one and wish I had never sold it __________________ Bo Kenney Last edited by boster; 11-07-2012 at 10:45 AM.

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Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Copo camaro on racing junk FJ did not deserve that. Looked like something you would see on yellow bullet.com __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

11-07-2012, 06:04 PM	#40
George Lyons Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 33 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Copo camaro on racing junk I thought I would chime in on the COPO discussion to clear up a few points from what I know firsthand. I am in line for a 427 N/A car and scheduled to take delivery on November 19th. I have had the good fortune of establishing some great relationships with the group at GM responsible for these cars coming to life. 1. GM did in fact work to get some cars in dedicated racers hands as early as possible. Not every racer was accommodated, an impossibility, but we can easily see that more than a few early delivered COPO's have been on the track from the earliest available completions. 2. Yes, some cars will surely become garage queen collector cars but GM really did try and select people that would campaign these cars, some very seriously and other more in the vein of a weekend warrior type fun drag car. Sounds like the old days to me, huh? 3. The COPO assembly facility in Michigan is very much on schedule and contrary to what some are saying, it looks like all 68 cars will be built and delivered in calendar 2012. If they miss, I'll bet it will be only a few cars finished in January but my guess is they will finish on time. 4. Most importantly: look one over when you get a chance. The build quality is outstanding. There are incredible details on these cars that really set them apart from the Ford and Chrysler offerings and it sure looks like their performance on the strip will very competitive as they evolve even more. So yes, I am a little biased, but those are the facts. I'm thrilled to be getting one soon and waiting for Spring for the fun to begin.