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Old 12-05-2012, 11:13 AM   #1
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It appears NHRA's tracks are allowed to use what ever traction compound they want. One would think that would be an enforced requirement.....I don't know the history on the compounds like some of the other racers on here, but the VHT is said to be the best. I had never ran my car outside of Div 3 until this race. I am told D3 tracks only use VHT. Gainesville says they used a VP product.

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Old 12-05-2012, 11:53 AM   #2
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It appears NHRA's tracks are allowed to use what ever traction compound they want. One would think that would be an enforced requirement.....I don't know the history on the compounds like some of the other racers on here, but the VHT is said to be the best. I had never ran my car outside of Div 3 until this race. I am told D3 tracks only use VHT. Gainesville says they used a VP product.

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I can second the track conditions for Jason. I was behind him on one pass. And he spun so bad I thought he had to have broke something and oiled the tires. I shut off in the water box and thought there would be a cleanup.
Even I was having traction problems. But not near as bad.
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:11 PM   #3
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It appears NHRA's tracks are allowed to use what ever traction compound they want. One would think that would be an enforced requirement.....I don't know the history on the compounds like some of the other racers on here, but the VHT is said to be the best. I had never ran my car outside of Div 3 until this race. I am told D3 tracks only use VHT. Gainesville says they used a VP product.

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I have talked to bracket racers and some lower powered stick cars that say they can't tell the difference between VP and VHT. Stock and Super Stock converters hit much harder, so we have problems where weekend bracket racers won't. I wish NHRA would require VHT at all member tracks.
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:32 PM   #4
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I agree with everything that is being said. Sad that the tracks can't get on the same page. When someone spun so bad like they did, did the personell or Dir try and do anything about it? Did they stop anyone and try and make the track better? If not then shame on them. Sorry this happened. We don't get many open events here in Div 2. Hopefully this will get fixed and we can grow these events.
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Old 12-05-2012, 01:37 PM   #5
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Wasn't going to say anything but here's my 2 cents anyway. I was one of the guys that drove two thousand miles with the hopes of touching the record a little. The weather was beautiful and around 900 ft. We walked the starting line and there was very little tackiness unlike the little country track we just came from that used VHT and knew how to use it to the point it will literally pull your shoes off. The turnout was very weak in both S and SS then add in the terrible starting line conditions ( although it had it's moments ) and you have a bad taste for both the promoter and the racer and I'm not sure the promoter really gets it, a lot of them don't understand class cars. Do they really not wonder why all the Hemi guys and half the field left after driving a couple thousand miles. In defense of the guys on the starting line, they saw that most of the class guys were spinning, with some blowing the tires off and did try to help and even asked what they could do differently. But I'm afraid due to lack of knowledge and the use of VP without the forgiveness of VHT it was fruitless. I watched Brian blow the tires off his D/SA Firebird so bad I saw daylight under the tires, even went over to see if he broke something. Got to give him extra credit for winning the race, I bet his heart was in his throat each time he hit it.---------
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joe i went 13.82 in U/SA #3609

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I have talked to bracket racers and some lower powered stick cars that say they can't tell the difference between VP and VHT. Stock and Super Stock converters hit much harder, so we have problems where weekend bracket racers won't. I wish NHRA would require VHT at all member tracks.
I can't believe this is not talked about more than it is....I was told that the VHT is roughly twice as expensive as the VP product....but the racers in Division 3 deserved a consistent race track from place to place....It was really good all year at every track.....


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Old 12-05-2012, 01:26 PM   #8
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I'm still trying to get everybodys record runs as if i dont get them they will npt be in the end of year stats. I'm trying to get the list. A total of 39 cars where there for the combo, 25 seen rd 1 ,so far all i have is elimination numbers, thats it, might be all that gets into stats.One time i wish the internet had been working down there so 1320go.com could of been showing runs.
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I can't believe this is not talked about more than it is....I was told that the VHT is roughly twice as expensive as the VP product....but the racers in Division 3 deserved a consistent race track from place to place....It was really good all year at every track.....


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I think most S/SS guys would pay another $5.00 for a tech card to offset the difference in cost. I know I would.
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I think most S/SS guys would pay another $5.00 for a tech card to offset the difference in cost. I know I would.
Ed, I didn't want to say that but certainly after traveling great distances....and you try to get down the track and it's an ice rink......most of us would anti up for the VHT truck to stop by....

Looks like the division director makes that call....I know ours did....even the tracks that were on something else were changed for the divisional races.....I'm not trying to attack other products but the Division 3 tracks were very good for our cars....so I hope it continues....

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