Records, Etc @ Gainesville

600ci · 12-05-2012, 10:51 PM

my 2 cents there are 2 ways to do something THE RIGHT WAY OR THE OTHER WAY does the track promoter want to have surgery by a ambulance driver OR a doctor I dont bring junk to the track. give us what we need to race safely just my 2 cents for all promoters

Rollins_2241 · 12-06-2012, 06:35 PM

Stockers went 8.86 at 154 and Super Stockers went 8.20s at over 160, right down the middle. On 275 drag radials.

My car needs a pretty good starting line and I went 9.68 at 138, right down the middle, with 60s varying from 1.388 to 1.398 over 13 runs. On 10 inch tires

If the track has to be much better than that for you to have a chance at a clean run, you might have some work to do.

442OLDS · 12-06-2012, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rollins_2241

My car needs a pretty good starting line and I went 9.68 at 138, right down the middle, with 60s varying from 1.388 to 1.398 over 13 runs. On 10 inch tires

I wasn't there and could be wrong,but 9.68 with a 1.38 sixty foot seems a little slow compared to what some of the Stockers and Super Stockers run in 60ft.

Ed Wright · 12-06-2012, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 442OLDS

I wasn't there and could be wrong,but 9.68 with a 1.38 sixty foot seems a little slow compared to what some of the Stockers and Super Stockers run in 60ft.

Off at LEAST a tenth in 60'. That's about what mine goes when it blows the tires off.

Jim Wahl · 12-06-2012, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rollins_2241

Stockers went 8.86 at 154 and Super Stockers went 8.20s at over 160, right down the middle. On 275 drag radials.

My car needs a pretty good starting line and I went 9.68 at 138, right down the middle, with 60s varying from 1.388 to 1.398 over 13 runs. On 10 inch tires

If the track has to be much better than that for you to have a chance at a clean run, you might have some work to do.

Damn! I'm only off .06 in the 60' from your car! Either mine's a rocket or yours is a sled until you hit the NOS! Jim

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Ed Wright · 12-06-2012, 10:15 PM

Those "heads up" cars and "10.5 shoot out " cars use very soft-hit converters. I learned that while working with some of those guys. Put one of out ATI SS converters in, and they wouldn't touch the ground.
Most of them seem to think they have such wonderful working cars because they have a big block on nitrous carrying the tires on marginal tracks with smaller tires.
I have talked to enough of them (some of the locals used to use my chassis dyno) about car set ups, they have nothing special at all. I talked to ATI, and another converter mfgr about it. Both told me "We don't sell those kind of cars converters like you guys run, they would never hook them. Yours hit much harder."
Ditto bracket cars. They need to be consistent on marginal tracks. They don't need to be really fast.

Dan Lattimore · 12-07-2012, 04:03 AM

Apples and Oranges------- If they don't run one they don't get it.---------400 lb. nose heavy 455 C.I. 4.250 stroke , quadrajet carb. 1200 starting line rpm foot brake stocker on 9" tires with 4.10 rear 10.61 --- 1.386 in 60' Gainsville same day ------ 3 passes ---Score --Car 1 --- Starting line 2 --- Starting line wins----- went home.

art leong · 12-07-2012, 09:04 AM

I only made one run on Friday. But my short times picked up .03 from Thursdays best.
Maybe some of those on here are talking about 2 different days.
It was a little slippery for me on Thursday. But I don't usually have any traction problems

Rollins_2241 · 12-07-2012, 10:51 AM

So Ed, you're saying heads-up cars with well over 2,000 horsepower are using magic converters that somehow hit the track softer than Stockers and Super Stockers factored at far less than half of that? Sounds like you guys are the ones who need the new converters. Or Dan, that it's required by the rules that you run a tall gear?

Bottom line, if you want to win you have to adapt your technology to the playing field. Or you can waste money on parts and diesel fuel, perform poorly, not have fun, and then whine about how it's someone else's fault. It's up to you. Personally, I make my engineering and spending decisions to put myself in position to turn on win lights. I don't race 60 feet, or even bench-race 60 feet. If what I do isn't working I make a change within the limits of my budget.

One thing I find about heads-up racers, as much as I disagree with them on many issues, is that they are very results-oriented, and I respect that. Maybe we handicap racers should learn what we can.

12-05-2012, 10:51 PM	#1
600ci Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 163 Likes: 5 Liked 3 Times in 1 Post	Re: Records, Etc @ Gainesville my 2 cents there are 2 ways to do something THE RIGHT WAY OR THE OTHER WAY does the track promoter want to have surgery by a ambulance driver OR a doctor I dont bring junk to the track. give us what we need to race safely just my 2 cents for all promoters

12-06-2012, 06:35 PM	#2
Rollins_2241 Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 170 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Records, Etc @ Gainesville Stockers went 8.86 at 154 and Super Stockers went 8.20s at over 160, right down the middle. On 275 drag radials. My car needs a pretty good starting line and I went 9.68 at 138, right down the middle, with 60s varying from 1.388 to 1.398 over 13 runs. On 10 inch tires If the track has to be much better than that for you to have a chance at a clean run, you might have some work to do.

12-06-2012, 10:15 PM	#6
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Records, Etc @ Gainesville Those "heads up" cars and "10.5 shoot out " cars use very soft-hit converters. I learned that while working with some of those guys. Put one of out ATI SS converters in, and they wouldn't touch the ground. Most of them seem to think they have such wonderful working cars because they have a big block on nitrous carrying the tires on marginal tracks with smaller tires. I have talked to enough of them (some of the locals used to use my chassis dyno) about car set ups, they have nothing special at all. I talked to ATI, and another converter mfgr about it. Both told me "We don't sell those kind of cars converters like you guys run, they would never hook them. Yours hit much harder." Ditto bracket cars. They need to be consistent on marginal tracks. They don't need to be really fast. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

12-07-2012, 04:03 AM	#7
Dan Lattimore Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Beaverdam, Va./ Port St. Lucie,Fla. Posts: 362 Likes: 177 Liked 154 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Records, Etc @ Gainesville Apples and Oranges------- If they don't run one they don't get it.---------400 lb. nose heavy 455 C.I. 4.250 stroke , quadrajet carb. 1200 starting line rpm foot brake stocker on 9" tires with 4.10 rear 10.61 --- 1.386 in 60' Gainsville same day ------ 3 passes ---Score --Car 1 --- Starting line 2 --- Starting line wins----- went home. __________________ 66W30POST Last edited by Dan Lattimore; 12-07-2012 at 04:15 AM.

12-07-2012, 09:04 AM	#8
art leong VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Richmond Hill, Georgia Posts: 2,003 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Records, Etc @ Gainesville I only made one run on Friday. But my short times picked up .03 from Thursdays best. Maybe some of those on here are talking about 2 different days. It was a little slippery for me on Thursday. But I don't usually have any traction problems __________________ Art Leong 2095 SS

12-07-2012, 10:51 AM	#9
Rollins_2241 Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 170 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Records, Etc @ Gainesville So Ed, you're saying heads-up cars with well over 2,000 horsepower are using magic converters that somehow hit the track softer than Stockers and Super Stockers factored at far less than half of that? Sounds like you guys are the ones who need the new converters. Or Dan, that it's required by the rules that you run a tall gear? Bottom line, if you want to win you have to adapt your technology to the playing field. Or you can waste money on parts and diesel fuel, perform poorly, not have fun, and then whine about how it's someone else's fault. It's up to you. Personally, I make my engineering and spending decisions to put myself in position to turn on win lights. I don't race 60 feet, or even bench-race 60 feet. If what I do isn't working I make a change within the limits of my budget. One thing I find about heads-up racers, as much as I disagree with them on many issues, is that they are very results-oriented, and I respect that. Maybe we handicap racers should learn what we can.