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It is not the same car. I once thought it was but the author of this thread and owner of the red Remlinger convertible said it was not.
He may be addressing this in post number 31 above. Although it was common for 71 Cutlasses to be converted to 72s courtesy of Oldsmobile's Dale Smith sending the racers grilles, headlights bezels, and taillights. That Cooper Speed Shop Al Seger convertible in my signature picture below is and example of a 71 later converted to a White 72. The chrome strip along the lower body(also on the blue Remlinger convertible) is incorrect for 72 and you will notice on the white 72 converted car below they left this 71 molding in place. It would take some bodywork to switch out the molding- filling in holes and making new holes and if the blue and red Remlinger convertible was the same car it would have been a painstaking conversion but not impossible. But per the current owner we know they are not the same car. On the red Remlinger convertible you see a thin bodyside molding that is correct for 72 and the chrome rocker panel molding along the very bottom. 70 and 71 Supremes had the wide chrome molding that you see on the black and white pictures below but in 72 they moved to a thin strip like the red Remlinger car below. Too much information Im sure. ![]() Two cars above are same car. Cutlass SX 455 were rare cars and convertible SXs are even more rare. Correct me if Im wrong Ive heard this car was sold with an incorrect 350 engine installed and the 72 changes intact? Al Seger then moved to the 72 Go Shop Cutlass Cruiser flat top wagon in 1973 that he must have raced until he got a white 76-77 Cutlass? and then a 78-79 98 Regency? [quote=Hemi Moose;359493]I was just wondering, is this the same Olds convertible or a different one... ![]() Different cars ![]()
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Cool photos and interesting stories. I was told that Dover's '70 hardtop (brown) was sold about a year ago up in Kentucky. The older gentleman (can't recall his name offhand) that owned had passed away, but had previously raced it at the Bowling Green races some years ago. Was it an original 4-4-2 or a clone made from a Cutlass? I wondered because I recall it having a standard (non cut-out) rear bumper.
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jim that car was orignialy a w31 bought by my friend jimmy butler brand new from fornof olds.jimmy bought a 455 from dover sr and raced it as a D/SA.dover bought it from jimmy and raced it for a long time and dover sold it to a man from bowling green.dover jr allmost bought it back a year or so ago but had no place to keep it.i allmost wen't get it but my famly would have commited me if i would have bought it to.
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![]() ![]() Bill Hudson owned and raced the car. He was a Bowling Green resident(Richardsville KY actually, a small community outside Bowling Green). Above is a cropped picture from the auction flyer with his name on the door glass. I knew a guy who visited his home and he told me the car has a Cutlass VIN. I went with him out there one time. He had a burgandy 66 tri power car that also sold at the auction. Mr. Hudson initially had a rallye red 70 w-30 post coupe that was hit while on a trailer on the side of Interstate 65. He sold several parts off the red car. I actually have the trunk off that red w-30. Its rust free but warped from the accident. The red car was totalled and evidently Mr. Hudson purchased former Dover car. I think he may have put several parts off the red w-30 post car onto this one. You will notice that the car above has red inner fender wells. I always thought the 442 fender emblems were too far up on the fender but maybe the paint tricks it out. But its a Cutlass not a 442. The car sold for either $6500 or $8500 I was told. They couldnt get it started until after it sold although still at the auction site. Im only now seeing Sammy's previous post about the car. I never knew it was a W-31 which may explain the red inner fender wells after all. I remember Mr. Hudson telling me the car came from Louisiana. Mr. Hudson was also a avid Kentucky Wildcat fan. One we tried to go out there to look at the cars and buy parts and he run us off as the Wildcats were about to play. I took some personal pictures of this car in the 80s. I witnessed Mr Hudson run this car at Beech Bend a few times. I remember an ET of 11.70. Quote:
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I had the pleasure of visiting with Bill (Fuzzy) Hudson several times at Beech Bend and at his home,,,, Many great stories about his past racing experiances on his front porch . I tried to buy his 66 tri-power car also. His red 70 car had a W-27 rearend under it when it was hit ,,,bought a few parts off of it . Wish I would have stayed on the former Dover car, seems like it only showed a few miles on the odometer , conversations with Bill will be remembered for a long time...
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the car had only a few miles on it. when jimmy ordered the car he ordered it as a w31 at request of dover.he raced it from day one he only put a few miles on it to break it in.while driveing it the fuel pressure line broke and caught on fire under the hood burning off the factory screen. verry small damage under the hood.jimmy raced it for a wile then sold it to dover and as they say the rest is history.i should have bought it and allmost did.i am still very close friends with jerry jr he is like the little brother that i never had.we talk every day.i worked for dover sr for 10 years before i wen't in business for my self.and the origonal owner of that car was jimmy butler another close friend of mine.he passed away 3 years ago from agent orange he was a nom vet he was a tail gunner during nom.
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Ive got the trunk off that red car. Rust free but warped. still original paint and pin stripe. Its on my 71 442 beater. I remember the red car circa 1980 at a small car show at the Bowling Green Walmart. Show consisted of maybe 10 drag cars from the area.
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I remember the ex Dover and then Bill Hudson brown car had a sign on the dash. " When the green flag drops the BS stops". Also a license plate " Lee surrendered but I didn't." Seems like the dash on either the Red or brown car or both didnt have any ac or vent holes. Most of the time these non air cars have vents in the dash but this dash was filled in. Both cars had black interior I think.
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tweed vorhees just sent me some pics of the old bill robinson car all restored man is it fine he told me that ron gary had the car then sold it to the current owner and he restored it.it is on my facebook page.
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