GM Releases 2013 bogus HP ratings at PRI show

[Ed Wright]

The DP engines that got factored in Stock have not yet in SS.

[Comp 798]

Mark..... Stock has never had equality and harmony. Happy Holidays, Sam.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by A56

It would be nice if they did give the new cars some sort of FX class designation, im sure everyone will be happy then. After thinking about NHRA and the manufacturers trying to actually put a correct HP on all these new combos, I just dont think its possible. Since these new cars have been introduced, they've made leaps and bounds going faster and faster ,there's no telling how much power one of these engines are capable of making. Most all older combos have been wrung out and the HP is close to where it needs to be.

In addition I think that if given an FX designation in Stock, it would be fair to see low HP ratings continue to keep these new cars at the top of the qualifying sheet. As obvious as it is, this is very very important for the manufacturers on their ego system. It wont take but 2 to 3 years to level the playing field, while us old cars don't get our feelings hurt in heads up and class elimination. This simple trade off would send equality and harmony back to to world of Stock Eliminator.

Mark Lelchook
F/SA D/ED

Lots of luck......NHRA is NEVER going to do it.

[treessavoy]

Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes

Jim, in 69 it was corvette only. It's pretty widely known knowledge

Chad,

Thanks, us Mopar guy's don't pay much attention to them Chevy things!

JimR

[Jim Kaekel]

F/X will never happen. If it did, only the fastest guys would stick with it. The rest would quit because they couldn't have their way on the playground as they currently do (in heads-up situations).

[Harry 6674]

It won't be to long and the fastest stock national record will be faster then the SS/AH record. How cool is that? WOW. All that at a fraction of the cost.

[jmcarter]

Originally Posted by Harry 6674

It won't be to long and the fastest stock national record will be faster then the SS/AH record. How cool is that? WOW. All that at a fraction of the cost.

Yea, really cool, right....


NOT

Harry, not mocking your statement because I really saw it as being facetious.

[NewHemi]

Originally Posted by Jim Kaekel

F/X will never happen. If it did, only the fastest guys would stick with it. The rest would quit because they couldn't have their way on the playground as they currently do (in heads-up situations).

There you go again hating the new cars..

Once again, what race, what date, and in what round were you so wrongly embarrassed by one of the new cars, that you just can't get over and see the need to take unsubstantiated weak shots at them?

But apparently you are clairvoyant, since you can predict what "would" happen..... if.

Maybe you should just use your "talents" as a phone psychic....

Did you see that one coming? If not, then I guess you should leave the forecasting of other people's behavior alone.

David
The New Hemi Guy

[Jim Kaekel]

New Hemi: I was beaten by the under-factored LT1's and LS1's back in the early 90's in many heads-up runs long before you ever showed your face at an NHRA event. I've been very lucky and haven't had to run one of the new cars heads-up yet, but I'm sure it's coming. When it rains, it usually pours. Keep in mind also, that my car is no "slouch". But that was nothing compared to what's going on now. It's history repeating, but with far more bogus factors. How long have you been racing Stock Eliminator? Oh, that's right you just showed up about 3 years ago, but that's enough for you to qualify yourself as an expert on the subject.

[chevy620]

I am no expert but I was the victim of a few heads-up runs with cars that are way under-factored on horsepower. Cut a .012 light, the other guy is .090 and drives by and takes 20' of stripe at 15 mph slower speed.

Eventually I got tired of running a good car that would go .75 under and get crushed if the Ladder didn't go my way by a car that can easily go 1.2 under on the brakes.

I would buy a Stocker and go back to that class with one rule change:

**No heads-up runs during eliminations. Simple rule change, takes the bogus HP cars out of the "real race" and lets the drivers settle it.
*I also think part of that rule should say there will be Class Eliminations at every National Event on Friday morning. That way the guys who are about squeezing everything out of the car can still get their "Class Winner Trophies and hopefully some contingency $$".

I think you would see 15 to 20% more cars at LODRS and National events, maybe more. When you are positive you can't win a heads-up race...why spend $500 to $800 to go to an event and HOPE you won't have a heads-up race? It's obvious, a lot of guys leave nice cars at home because of the heads-up rule during eliminations.

Jok