GM Releases 2013 bogus HP ratings at PRI show

[boostedf22c]

Originally Posted by NewHemi

It is unfortunate that some have begun and persist in personal attacks. But enough is enough

David
The New Hemi Guy

If that isn't the pot calling the kettle black I don't know what is

[NewHemi]

Originally Posted by boostedf22c

If that isn't the pot calling the kettle black I don't know what is

You really don't know very much. That is obvious.

Why don't you just go find another illegal car to race and get hp for the combination until you get caught again?

David
The New Hemi Guy

[boostedf22c]

Originally Posted by NewHemi

You really don't know very much. That is obvious.

Why don't you just go find another illegal car to race and get hp for the combination until you get caught again?

David
The New Hemi Guy

My point exactly.

Hook, line and sinker.

[Jim Kaekel]

[QUOTE=NewHemi;360344]
"Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig."

That's alright, I've been called worse names before.

[Randall Klein]

Late to the party, quick to leave but has all the answers

[Monte Howard]

The problem here is for those of us that have raced stock elim for 20 + years is. We went through the pains of the LT-1 and LS-1 years and we took a beating for several years till NHRA put them in there own class, then once hp ratings got in line put them back in regular classes. We don't have enough time and don't want to relive it again. Unfortunately looks like we might have to.

Back in the 90's I got whipped like a redheaded step child over and over again by the LT-1 cars heads up. I Did happen to win one heads up in 2000 against Edmond Richardson at Joliet Nats. The only reason was I had a really good tune up for the Oxygenated fuel. Without it I would have been smashed. The difference between now and then is they had us by 3 tenths and these new factory experimental cars have us by 6-8 and it's is WRONG.

My father was lucky enough to get a few cars from the factory back in the 60's that they only built 25-50 of, did not have a Vin# and could not be bought off the show room floor. Guess what class he raced in then.......A and B Factory Eperimental.

It's not the owners of these cars that we don't like or blame it's the organization.

[Jeff Teuton]

Thanks Monte, I was wondering how someone could not like a big cuddlebear like me. As far as the FX, I proposed an A/FX and B/FX months and months ago after Indy. It would eliminate most of the cars from heads up except for their own kind, but would still be in Stock Eliminator. Some of the V8 cars have already moved out of the way. NHRA is looking at it.

[Jeff Goss]

Originally Posted by NewHemi

You really don't know very much. That is obvious.

Why don't you just go find another illegal car to race and get hp for the combination until you get caught again?

David
The New Hemi Guy

Real classy.....

[NewHemi]

Originally Posted by Jeff Goss

Real classy.....

If it wasn't the truth it might be wrong.

But not only was the car illegal after taking many class wins and getting lots of hp for the combination, the owners defense was that it ws always that way even though the engine had been redone..

Maybe it was a mistake, and the owner or builder didn't know any better. I don't think Jeff would cheat, but somebody missed the specs. Regardless of the reason why, the car was indeed illegal. And it was only discovered whenthe car was finally torn down as a result of a record run.

But I am done with this thread.

You all can continue beating the dead horse if you want.

David
The New Hemi Guy

[treessavoy]

Originally Posted by Jim Kaekel

New Hemi: I was beaten by the under-factored LT1's and LS1's back in the early 90's in many heads-up runs long before you ever showed your face at an NHRA event. I've been very lucky and haven't had to run one of the new cars heads-up yet, but I'm sure it's coming. When it rains, it usually pours. Keep in mind also, that my car is no "slouch". But that was nothing compared to what's going on now. It's history repeating, but with far more bogus factors. How long have you been racing Stock Eliminator? Oh, that's right you just showed up about 3 years ago, but that's enough for you to qualify yourself as an expert on the subject.

What difference does it make how long he's been racing? He is still entitled to his opinion.

How long have you been racing? 10 maybe 15 years? Those of us that have been around for 40 years or more have seen this problem with underrated cars come and go, but never before have we seen the NHRA push this type of car on us in Stock Eliminator. These "Factory" cars always went to SS or FX because they were not showroom legal.

There is nothing wrong with a racer going out and buying a car that the NHRA says is Stock legal or in David's case building one. It's the NHRA's fault that they let these car's compete in Stock not the individual owners.

The bad guy here is the NHRA!

JimR