Merry Xmas! National Event Entry now $310

Mike Carr · 01-02-2013, 08:23 PM

I've seen a better payout to entry ratio races than that, too. But still, not a bad deal. $225 for TWO races, each paying $2,500 to win ($5,000 total). Plus free crew tickets, up to ten people. For comparison, Indy is $355 entry, plus $105 per crew member, and pays $1,800 to win. Granted you have contingency at NHRA/IHRA races, IF (and that's a big if, lately) you can collect your due money. If you get the money you have coming to you, from ten companies @ 300 each, that is an extra $3,000. So, a total of $4,800. One would think that Indy, being the biggest, best race of the year, would pay much better than that. Or any National Event, for that matter ($300 to enter vs $1,500-$1,800 to win).

Here is a comparison, from just ten years ago:

June 2002, Atco LODRS race. Entry: $125. Fourth round loss paid me $175
2012 Atco LODRS race. Entry: $170. Fourth round loss: $150.

A net 70 (seventy) dollar loss from just a decade ago (IHRA is a net seventy-five dollar loss, entry vs fourth round from ten years ago). Motels have gone up quite a bit, gas has more than doubled (cleaning some drawers the other day and found some old receipts, I paid $1.46 for gs on the PA Turnpike on the way to Atco June '02; compared to $3.50 or so now). Toll bill to the NJ state line has doubled, up to forty-five dollars one way. Add up all the other associated costs and fees for pit bikes, golf carts and the like. Doing some quick math, it would take me about 900 or 1000 dollars to do a LODRS at E-town, Cecil, Maple Grove, Chicago, STanton, etc. A racer told me he was runner-up at the 2010 Maple Grove LODRS race. He won $400 (four hundred) plus some sticker money. Not being able to collect on much anyways, if I personally were to get a R/U at a LODRS race next year, I *MIGHT*break even for the weekend. Yes, I know we (most of us) don't do this for the money; at the same time, it would be nice to actually make a dollar or two getting to the final, don't you think? We (not me, I quit because of this type of stuff six years ago) truly must do this for the love of racing and friends--because to an outsider, it must seem ludacrous to pay what we do, to race for what we do.

Andys dad · 01-02-2013, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Carr

I've seen a better payout to entry ratio races than that, too. But still, not a bad deal. $225 for TWO races, each paying $2,500 to win ($5,000 total). Plus free crew tickets, up to ten people. For comparison, Indy is $355 entry, plus $105 per crew member, and pays $1,800 to win. Granted you have contingency at NHRA/IHRA races, IF (and that's a big if, lately) you can collect your due money. If you get the money you have coming to you, from ten companies @ 300 each, that is an extra $3,000. So, a total of $4,800. One would think that Indy, being the biggest, best race of the year, would pay much better than that. Or any National Event, for that matter ($300 to enter vs $1,500-$1,800 to win).

Here is a comparison, from just ten years ago:

June 2002, Atco LODRS race. Entry: $125. Fourth round loss paid me $175
2012 Atco LODRS race. Entry: $170. Fourth round loss: $150.

A net 70 (seventy) dollar loss from just a decade ago (IHRA is a net seventy-five dollar loss, entry vs fourth round from ten years ago). Motels have gone up quite a bit, gas has more than doubled (cleaning some drawers the other day and found some old receipts, I paid $1.46 for gs on the PA Turnpike on the way to Atco June '02; compared to $3.50 or so now). Toll bill to the NJ state line has doubled, up to forty-five dollars one way. Add up all the other associated costs and fees for pit bikes, golf carts and the like. Doing some quick math, it would take me about 900 or 1000 dollars to do a LODRS at E-town, Cecil, Maple Grove, Chicago, STanton, etc. A racer told me he was runner-up at the 2010 Maple Grove LODRS race. He won $400 (four hundred) plus some sticker money. Not being able to collect on much anyways, if I personally were to get a R/U at a LODRS race next year, I *MIGHT*break even for the weekend. Yes, I know we (most of us) don't do this for the money; at the same time, it would be nice to actually make a dollar or two getting to the final, don't you think? We (not me, I quit because of this type of stuff six years ago) truly must do this for the love of racing and friends--because to an outsider, it must seem ludacrous to pay what we do, to race for what we do.

x2 mike - you get it...you said just about everything I erased - LMFAO

Ron

Bart Kilraine · 01-02-2013, 09:42 PM

I don't care if they raise it to $500,I'm not really interested in runnig a National Event anymore.Comparison ...........$40 to enter.........$350 class win.Along time ago,but compare entrance to class win now.

01-02-2013, 08:23 PM	#1
Mike Carr VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Enon Valley PA Posts: 1,650 Likes: 234 Liked 83 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Merry Xmas! National Event Entry now $310 I've seen a better payout to entry ratio races than that, too. But still, not a bad deal. $225 for TWO races, each paying $2,500 to win ($5,000 total). Plus free crew tickets, up to ten people. For comparison, Indy is $355 entry, plus $105 per crew member, and pays $1,800 to win. Granted you have contingency at NHRA/IHRA races, IF (and that's a big if, lately) you can collect your due money. If you get the money you have coming to you, from ten companies @ 300 each, that is an extra $3,000. So, a total of $4,800. One would think that Indy, being the biggest, best race of the year, would pay much better than that. Or any National Event, for that matter ($300 to enter vs $1,500-$1,800 to win). Here is a comparison, from just ten years ago: June 2002, Atco LODRS race. Entry: $125. Fourth round loss paid me $175 2012 Atco LODRS race. Entry: $170. Fourth round loss: $150. A net 70 (seventy) dollar loss from just a decade ago (IHRA is a net seventy-five dollar loss, entry vs fourth round from ten years ago). Motels have gone up quite a bit, gas has more than doubled (cleaning some drawers the other day and found some old receipts, I paid $1.46 for gs on the PA Turnpike on the way to Atco June '02; compared to $3.50 or so now). Toll bill to the NJ state line has doubled, up to forty-five dollars one way. Add up all the other associated costs and fees for pit bikes, golf carts and the like. Doing some quick math, it would take me about 900 or 1000 dollars to do a LODRS at E-town, Cecil, Maple Grove, Chicago, STanton, etc. A racer told me he was runner-up at the 2010 Maple Grove LODRS race. He won $400 (four hundred) plus some sticker money. Not being able to collect on much anyways, if I personally were to get a R/U at a LODRS race next year, I MIGHTbreak even for the weekend. Yes, I know we (most of us) don't do this for the money; at the same time, it would be nice to actually make a dollar or two getting to the final, don't you think? We (not me, I quit because of this type of stuff six years ago) truly must do this for the love of racing and friends--because to an outsider, it must seem ludacrous to pay what we do, to race for what we do. __________________ Mike Carr, Tri-State S/SS Association President Looking for 2015 S/SS Race Sponsors Contact me if interested buffdaddy_1302@hotmail.com (724) 510-5912

01-02-2013, 09:42 PM	#3
Bart Kilraine Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Carrolltown,PA Posts: 118 Likes: 0 Liked 11 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Merry Xmas! National Event Entry now $310 I don't care if they raise it to $500,I'm not really interested in runnig a National Event anymore.Comparison ...........$40 to enter.........$350 class win.Along time ago,but compare entrance to class win now.