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Old 01-25-2013, 06:25 PM   #1
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Do you still have that burgundy Grand Prix or Grand Am laying around? Bad rear main seal, needed a quart of oil every few hours, but the one time I raced it, ran 17.20's deep-staged and granny shiftin' at Norwalk. Went five rounds with it! LOL Set of tires, drop the exhaust, adjust weight, timing, change the oil, throw some race gas in it and roll! Sleeper combination.

We've talked about it before, too: high initial investment, but if you happen to have a Cobalt floating around, those can be close to the index bone stock.
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Old 01-25-2013, 07:47 PM   #2
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Billy is the only person in the world that can pull this.off
Hes friggin crazy....it takes a twisted mind to figure out what these combos run..
I am a chevy guy ..cause its easy.lol... ..By the way wheres that Nees's Pieces car?
Love that thing..
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We've talked about it before, too: high initial investment, but if you happen to have a Cobalt floating around, those can be close to the index bone stock.
Which model? I'm looking for a commuter-mobile and this sounds like a great target!
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Old 01-26-2013, 04:27 PM   #4
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Which model? I'm looking for a commuter-mobile and this sounds like a great target!
My wife had the regular naturally aspirated 2.2L '05 Cobalt. It's rated at 140HP, fits DF/S in NHRA (15.60 index), so min weight would be 2830#. Only ran 1/8th mile with Jill's, but I've seen them go 16.30's bone stock. Ran hers over the scales at Rockingham and it was well over 3000#. In IHRA, it fits FF/SA @ 2970#, with a 16.30 index.

On a side note, we discovered that the power steering is electronic on those cars, and fails. Traded it in and got an '08 Charger 3.5L. Best car we've ever had. Hmmm... wonder if we could claim it as an '07... fits R/SA. The 14.05 index looks like a long way off from a 16.40's @ 1 MILLion MPH that the Charger ran, BUT it didn't even shift into high gear until after you lifted past the 1/4 mile finish. Told Jill the thing would really haul if you put some gear in it. "NO!" "Well, I was just saying IF...!"
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My wife had the regular naturally aspirated 2.2L '05 Cobalt. It's rated at 140HP, fits DF/S in NHRA (15.60 index), so min weight would be 2830#. Only ran 1/8th mile with Jill's, but I've seen them go 16.30's bone stock. Ran hers over the scales at Rockingham and it was well over 3000#. In IHRA, it fits FF/SA @ 2970#, with a 16.30 index.

On a side note, we discovered that the power steering is electronic on those cars, and fails. Traded it in and got an '08 Charger 3.5L. Best car we've ever had. Hmmm... wonder if we could claim it as an '07... fits R/SA. The 14.05 index looks like a long way off from a 16.40's @ 1 MILLion MPH that the Charger ran, BUT it didn't even shift into high gear until after you lifted past the 1/4 mile finish. Told Jill the thing would really haul if you put some gear in it. "NO!" "Well, I was just saying IF...!"
Riiiight, you were just thinking out loud...
My '07 Cobalt with the same motor and HP has run a best of 16.40 in the 1/4, but is usually 16.65-75 depending on the weather. Best 1/8 mile was 10.47 on a 37 degree day at Norwalk.
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Michael, PM sent....
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Got it, and replied.... although you should post it on the board for everyone. Good topic.
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Michael, thank you...here's my question and his very quick answer:

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Michael,

I hope you don't mind the PM, but a thought came to mind..... if I street and race it, how do I manage race vs. street fuel as far as a fuel check goes? Would I have to purge the stock from the system every time, and if so, how would I go about that to keep the race fuel within specs? I seem to remember reading that regular street fuel won't pass fuel check...

It certainly sounds like a combination that would be a great starting point!

Thank you for your insight, greatly appreciated!

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Yes, you'd have to completely drain the tank, the probably put just a tiny bit of the new fuel in and run it out to make sure the lines don't have any of the old fuel in it, then put what you need in. Race fuel will kill a catalytic converter. Could it be done? Sure... it'd just be a major pain.

Jeremy Preston in FL actually does this with his Corvette. Street-legal Stocker! He's won one in both NHRA and IHRA I believe.
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