Mike Cotten you are the MAN!

billy leber · 02-18-2013, 06:42 PM

@ Racin Mason ... I remember seeing your run and feeling you got Effed . Can't wait to hear the response as to why yours was not a re -run as well.

Michael Beard · 02-18-2013, 07:26 PM

After studying the three different videos presented here from different incidents, and the Div. Director comment, it appears that they have added some kind of lockout in the system so that once it thinks the car has left the starting line, it keeps the pre-stage and stage from lighting again. If you look at older videos, you can see the stage bulbs flicker when the rear tires roll through the beams, so presumably they have tried to eliminate this "problem" (possible distraction for the faster car?) by locking them out, as Rice was describing. I stepped through Mason's video like the previous one, and the same thing happened: The red-light comes on instantaneously with the power going off to the pre-stage and stage bulbs (and since they are incandescent, they appear to go off *after* the red-light)

It may be a coincidence, but in these particular videos, it appears that the red-light is activated at about the time that the slower opponent's rear wheels are crossing the starting line.

In troubleshooting, my gut feeling would be to look at something related to this pre-stage/stage lockout as being the culprit.

Erik Jones · 02-18-2013, 07:54 PM

Mike did an awesome job. He is a stand up guy and in my opinion he won that race! This same thing happend to another customer of mine and we were told that it was a legit redlight and that there will be no re-runs............... Its a real bummer this ended up like it did!!!

Never the less Congrats to Mike and Paula for a runner up!

Erik Jones
Jones Engine Development

SuperStockDodge · 02-18-2013, 08:24 PM

Dang it, looks like we are forced to reinstate the flag drop again until we get this electronic glitch worked out...

Jeff Teuton · 02-18-2013, 09:09 PM

Several years that happened to me in St. Louis. I got the wrong end of the treatment until Mike and Paula told me to take the slip to the tower because it was all fowled up. They looked at it, pulled up the run on their computer and just said re-run. I guess it was my lucky day, but without Mike and Paula, I would have left. I had already brought my wife and kids to the airport. Anyway I unloaded and went to the final round.

02-18-2013, 06:42 PM	#1
billy leber Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: most places Posts: 211 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 1 Post	Re: Mike Cotten you are the MAN! @ Racin Mason ... I remember seeing your run and feeling you got Effed . Can't wait to hear the response as to why yours was not a re -run as well. __________________ Billy Leber 1150 SS, 1050 SG, 1962 STK, 185 SC

02-18-2013, 07:26 PM	#2
Michael Beard VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,060 Likes: 0 Liked 13 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Mike Cotten you are the MAN! After studying the three different videos presented here from different incidents, and the Div. Director comment, it appears that they have added some kind of lockout in the system so that once it thinks the car has left the starting line, it keeps the pre-stage and stage from lighting again. If you look at older videos, you can see the stage bulbs flicker when the rear tires roll through the beams, so presumably they have tried to eliminate this "problem" (possible distraction for the faster car?) by locking them out, as Rice was describing. I stepped through Mason's video like the previous one, and the same thing happened: The red-light comes on instantaneously with the power going off to the pre-stage and stage bulbs (and since they are incandescent, they appear to go off after the red-light) It may be a coincidence, but in these particular videos, it appears that the red-light is activated at about the time that the slower opponent's rear wheels are crossing the starting line. In troubleshooting, my gut feeling would be to look at something related to this pre-stage/stage lockout as being the culprit. __________________ Michael Beard - NHRA/IHRA 3216 S/SS

02-18-2013, 07:54 PM	#3
Erik Jones Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 61 Likes: 1 Liked 47 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Mike Cotten you are the MAN! Mike did an awesome job. He is a stand up guy and in my opinion he won that race! This same thing happend to another customer of mine and we were told that it was a legit redlight and that there will be no re-runs............... Its a real bummer this ended up like it did!!! Never the less Congrats to Mike and Paula for a runner up! Erik Jones Jones Engine Development __________________ Erik Jones

02-18-2013, 08:24 PM	#4
SuperStockDodge Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Stickville USA Posts: 261 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Mike Cotten you are the MAN! Dang it, looks like we are forced to reinstate the flag drop again until we get this electronic glitch worked out... __________________ Sean Fischer 5864 SS/E

02-18-2013, 09:09 PM	#5
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	Re: Mike Cotten you are the MAN! Several years that happened to me in St. Louis. I got the wrong end of the treatment until Mike and Paula told me to take the slip to the tower because it was all fowled up. They looked at it, pulled up the run on their computer and just said re-run. I guess it was my lucky day, but without Mike and Paula, I would have left. I had already brought my wife and kids to the airport. Anyway I unloaded and went to the final round. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK