No lift division race

art leong · 02-20-2013, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sammy pizzolato

that's why if you make the rule that you can only go one tenth faster then your fastest time on the Q sheet even in a head's up race.so at that point a racer would have to show some kind of performance so he don't get burned on a head's up run. that would get rid of the 1000 ft qualifing.

Sammy that would not work. On Sunday my car picked up .25 in the eight mile over Saturday night. And I changed nothing.
Except my drawers (LOL), after I saw the time slip.

sammy pizzolato · 02-20-2013, 05:43 PM

it is just an idea something to keep this thread going.years ago everybody ran off of the record with a tenth under break out we all know that was only good for two or three cars in the nation.

Ed Wright · 02-20-2013, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sammy pizzolato

it is just an idea something to keep this thread going.years ago everybody ran off of the record with a tenth under break out we all know that was only good for two or three cars in the nation.

I liked it that way. I won points races a tenth off the record, and was closer to it than anybody else there. Jack Mullins with his big old Pontiac wagon could run under more than often anybody else I knew.

MikeFicacci · 02-20-2013, 05:57 PM

I think you guys are going about this wrong. Instead of penalizing people, calculating 1000-foot times, or setting more rules, a much more diplomatic approach would be to simple give people motivation to keep their foot on the floor all the way to the 1320 be it points for qualifying or points for records. Instead of the NHRA throwing more rules our way, a points bonus substantial enough will slowly force the professional racers and swinging d*cks to put their name at the top of the sheet or in the records books. The advantages of awarding points for qualifications (and maybe records too) far outweigh the day it will take to write the code in the program that calculates points.

Mike Pearson · 02-20-2013, 06:16 PM

You can go to an IHRA race and run as fast as you want. They do not have an AHFS system. some of the NHRA guys run real fast when they are at the IHRA events. I run both so I dont favor either HRA. Just a thought. IHRA sure could use the support too.

sammy pizzolato · 02-20-2013, 06:20 PM

i like that mike in the 80's they gave you extra points for low qualifers.

Ed Wright · 02-20-2013, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sammy pizzolato

i like that mike in the 80's they gave you extra points for low qualifers.

And for records. We got 2 rounds worth of points for ET records if somebody else held it. One round's worth if bumping your own ET record. We got one round's points for MPH records. Not much reason to set records now, but this way it's less work for tech guys. Every time I tore down for a record it was along side two or three others. Then you had to listen to slower guys in your class grumble about it. :-)

Poor Red and Wesley didn't get to have dinner on time many Saturday evenings. LOL

Bryan Worner · 02-20-2013, 07:57 PM

What is everyone's problem with the racers (myself included) that don't make a full pass during qualifying? Is it that you can't predict your dial off of the guy who dumps at 1000 ft? Does it make you mad that we can pick up 3 tenths for a heads up run? What's the problem? The last time I looked nobody else (except a few sponsors) pay for anything I put in my car? So I can qualify any way I want! If my opponent red lights or breaks, I can lift if I want to! It's my choice.

When the AHFS came out I was told by a tech official it was my job to slow my car down to NOT get horsepower. So if I want to lift to prevent that, oh well. I can live with myself. I know some diehards disagree, but that's how I race. Sorry if that offends you!

Kenny Wigington · 02-25-2013, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeFicacci

I think you guys are going about this wrong. Instead of penalizing people, calculating 1000-foot times, or setting more rules, a much more diplomatic approach would be to simple give people motivation to keep their foot on the floor all the way to the 1320 be it points for qualifying or points for records. Instead of the NHRA throwing more rules our way, a points bonus substantial enough will slowly force the professional racers and swinging d*cks to put their name at the top of the sheet or in the records books. The advantages of awarding points for qualifications (and maybe records too) far outweigh the day it will take to write the code in the program that calculates points.

That is just perfect sense. Plain and simple.

Casey Miles · 02-26-2013, 09:07 AM

Here's another way that the cars could be classed quicker then they are now, give any combo (new car andold) that hasn't been run for 10 years, give them an entry level of factory HP plus 100 HP. Let the new combo's race to get HP off rather then giving them a free trip to the top of the quailifing sheet the way it is now. It is rediculous that the new combo's can bag to the 1000' so they can determine if the combo gets HP or not. NHRA should be do their jobs, that's what we pay for with the membership to NHRA and subscription to ND. Police the classes as much as possible, not take the laid back BS that they are putting out now.
If you look at the Hemi Head thread, here again, NHRA isn't doing what they should be doing. The rules shouldn't be basterized for more power, they should stick to factory specs. and castings.
At the time, Greg Xacalis was a pain in the ***, but looking back, he is what NHRA should be standing for. He was a no BS tech person and if it didn't look right to him, you went home! If you couldn't prove that that is the way the parts came from the factory, he didn't accept it.

Casey Miles
248H "F" NHRA Stock!

02-20-2013, 05:43 PM	#2
sammy pizzolato Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: houma louisiana Posts: 432 Likes: 52 Liked 56 Times in 13 Posts	Re: No lift division race it is just an idea something to keep this thread going.years ago everybody ran off of the record with a tenth under break out we all know that was only good for two or three cars in the nation.

02-20-2013, 05:57 PM	#4
MikeFicacci Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 242 Likes: 1 Liked 19 Times in 2 Posts	Re: No lift division race I think you guys are going about this wrong. Instead of penalizing people, calculating 1000-foot times, or setting more rules, a much more diplomatic approach would be to simple give people motivation to keep their foot on the floor all the way to the 1320 be it points for qualifying or points for records. Instead of the NHRA throwing more rules our way, a points bonus substantial enough will slowly force the professional racers and swinging d*cks to put their name at the top of the sheet or in the records books. The advantages of awarding points for qualifications (and maybe records too) far outweigh the day it will take to write the code in the program that calculates points. __________________ Mike Ficacci Stk 1010

02-20-2013, 06:16 PM	#5
Mike Pearson VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,474 Likes: 633 Liked 1,988 Times in 600 Posts	Re: No lift division race You can go to an IHRA race and run as fast as you want. They do not have an AHFS system. some of the NHRA guys run real fast when they are at the IHRA events. I run both so I dont favor either HRA. Just a thought. IHRA sure could use the support too. __________________ Mike Pearson 2485 SS

02-20-2013, 06:20 PM	#6
sammy pizzolato Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: houma louisiana Posts: 432 Likes: 52 Liked 56 Times in 13 Posts	Re: No lift division race i like that mike in the 80's they gave you extra points for low qualifers.

02-20-2013, 07:57 PM	#8
Bryan Worner Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Duncannon, PA Posts: 825 Likes: 138 Liked 535 Times in 86 Posts	Re: No lift division race What is everyone's problem with the racers (myself included) that don't make a full pass during qualifying? Is it that you can't predict your dial off of the guy who dumps at 1000 ft? Does it make you mad that we can pick up 3 tenths for a heads up run? What's the problem? The last time I looked nobody else (except a few sponsors) pay for anything I put in my car? So I can qualify any way I want! If my opponent red lights or breaks, I can lift if I want to! It's my choice. When the AHFS came out I was told by a tech official it was my job to slow my car down to NOT get horsepower. So if I want to lift to prevent that, oh well. I can live with myself. I know some diehards disagree, but that's how I race. Sorry if that offends you!

02-26-2013, 09:07 AM	#10
Casey Miles Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 706 Likes: 128 Liked 508 Times in 92 Posts	Re: No lift division race Here's another way that the cars could be classed quicker then they are now, give any combo (new car andold) that hasn't been run for 10 years, give them an entry level of factory HP plus 100 HP. Let the new combo's race to get HP off rather then giving them a free trip to the top of the quailifing sheet the way it is now. It is rediculous that the new combo's can bag to the 1000' so they can determine if the combo gets HP or not. NHRA should be do their jobs, that's what we pay for with the membership to NHRA and subscription to ND. Police the classes as much as possible, not take the laid back BS that they are putting out now. If you look at the Hemi Head thread, here again, NHRA isn't doing what they should be doing. The rules shouldn't be basterized for more power, they should stick to factory specs. and castings. At the time, Greg Xacalis was a pain in the ***, but looking back, he is what NHRA should be standing for. He was a no BS tech person and if it didn't look right to him, you went home! If you couldn't prove that that is the way the parts came from the factory, he didn't accept it. Casey Miles 248H "F" NHRA Stock!