1969 New York Match Race 'Hemi Dart vs. '427 Camaro'

Paul Ceasrine · 03-04-2013, 08:53 PM

Here it is in 1970.

In 1969, an 'original' COPO' All-Aluminum 427 that ran NHRA SS/C.

And AHRA S/SE with the 'Tunnel Ram'.

In November 1969 it was purchased less engine and transmission.

The new engine was an 'aluminum head' 427 backed by a TH400 that ran in A/MP.

Hemiparts · 03-05-2013, 01:21 PM

Eugene Coard ( Ron Lyles cousin) is alive and well living in Durham NC. I'll forward this to him and see if he can give us " the rest of the story".

Chris

wv_bob · 03-05-2013, 01:49 PM

Another thread on another board that might have more info
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=280240

Paul Ceasrine · 01-10-2015, 12:38 PM

True Story.......

Carguy49 · 01-10-2015, 01:19 PM

I have a book about the Mutt Brothers. It is called - HOLE SHOT The story of the last MUTT Brother by Eugene Coard. It is about 75 pages of fun reading. Copyright is 2013. I got it through Amazon. I just checked and it's still available for $11.69.

Paul Ceasrine · 01-10-2015, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine

True Story.......

But, the Race took place in 1970.

chris ok · 01-11-2015, 05:06 PM

I pass thru 150th street on my commute.
Back in the day it was a monster of a race spot as they came from far and wide from local states to challenge the NY cars. It was a hot spot even 7 nights sometimes earlymornings a week.
I will look into this book as it is first I have heard of it.
One of the Mutt Bros sons used to post on a local site some years ago and I think still raced Mopars.

Rat Patrol · 12-29-2022, 01:40 AM

The only proof I need as to which cars were faster us the NHRA classes.

Alloy block Camaros ran SS/C IN 1969 - in fact Jenkins lost to Vankes 65 Race Hemi in one at the Indy Nationals.

The Hemi Darts & Cudas ran in SS/B...their ETs were 4/10ths quicker than Jenkins SS/C car

Paul Ceasrine’s research has confirmed alloy block 427s raced in SS/C in 69

And yet ‘gurus’ like Doug Boyce (Arch Stanton) and Gary Glover still insist Jenkins never raced a ZL1 in 69.....but have not as yet, come up with an alternative JENKINS 69 SS/C combo.....

03-04-2013, 08:53 PM	#1
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: 1969 New York Match Race 'Hemi Dart vs. '427 Camaro' Here it is in 1970. In 1969, an 'original' COPO' All-Aluminum 427 that ran NHRA SS/C. And AHRA S/SE with the 'Tunnel Ram'. In November 1969 it was purchased less engine and transmission. The new engine was an 'aluminum head' 427 backed by a TH400 that ran in A/MP. Last edited by Paul Ceasrine; 03-04-2013 at 08:55 PM.

03-05-2013, 01:21 PM	#2
Hemiparts Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Raleigh, N.C Posts: 212 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 1969 New York Match Race 'Hemi Dart vs. '427 Camaro' Eugene Coard ( Ron Lyles cousin) is alive and well living in Durham NC. I'll forward this to him and see if he can give us " the rest of the story". Chris __________________ Chris Whitaker Chris3 Racing 71 Duster Wendell,NC

03-05-2013, 01:49 PM	#3
wv_bob Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: West Virginia Posts: 64 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: 1969 New York Match Race 'Hemi Dart vs. '427 Camaro' Another thread on another board that might have more info http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=280240

01-10-2015, 12:38 PM	#4
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: 1969 New York Match Race 'Hemi Dart vs. '427 Camaro' *True Story.......*

01-10-2015, 01:19 PM	#5
Carguy49 VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Fife, Washington Posts: 1,972 Likes: 2,457 Liked 2,928 Times in 703 Posts	Re: 1969 New York Match Race 'Hemi Dart vs. '427 Camaro' I have a book about the Mutt Brothers. It is called - HOLE SHOT The story of the last MUTT Brother by Eugene Coard. It is about 75 pages of fun reading. Copyright is 2013. I got it through Amazon. I just checked and it's still available for $11.69. __________________ Ron McDowell - Did Race Every day is a Gift - Enjoy with family and friends. Last edited by Carguy49; 01-10-2015 at 01:23 PM. Reason: more info

01-11-2015, 05:06 PM	#7
chris ok Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Long Island, New york Posts: 592 Likes: 131 Liked 46 Times in 29 Posts	Re: 1969 New York Match Race 'Hemi Dart vs. '427 Camaro' I pass thru 150th street on my commute. Back in the day it was a monster of a race spot as they came from far and wide from local states to challenge the NY cars. It was a hot spot even 7 nights sometimes earlymornings a week. I will look into this book as it is first I have heard of it. One of the Mutt Bros sons used to post on a local site some years ago and I think still raced Mopars.

12-29-2022, 01:40 AM	#8
Rat Patrol Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 169 Likes: 68 Liked 31 Times in 26 Posts	Re: 1969 New York Match Race 'Hemi Dart vs. '427 Camaro' The only proof I need as to which cars were faster us the NHRA classes. Alloy block Camaros ran SS/C IN 1969 - in fact Jenkins lost to Vankes 65 Race Hemi in one at the Indy Nationals. The Hemi Darts & Cudas ran in SS/B...their ETs were 4/10ths quicker than Jenkins SS/C car Paul Ceasrine’s research has confirmed alloy block 427s raced in SS/C in 69 And yet ‘gurus’ like Doug Boyce (Arch Stanton) and Gary Glover still insist Jenkins never raced a ZL1 in 69.....but have not as yet, come up with an alternative JENKINS 69 SS/C combo.....