AMC 66-72 optional specs removed

Travis Miller · 04-17-2013, 08:57 AM

I received this info yesterday from NHRA....

"AMC 66-72 removed optional cam, carb, and intake as they were a dealer option not a factory option."

For verification go to www.NHRARacer.com and check the Engine Specs and see that the optional carb, intake and camshaft has been removed effective 4/16/13. They are no longer on the engine spec sheet and will no longer be allowed in Stock or S/S.

Larry Hill · 04-17-2013, 01:06 PM

Now if NHRA would only fix all the Ford FE stuff: crank, rods, carbs, cam, and intake.

Jeff Kempton · 04-17-2013, 01:43 PM

This reminds me of the recent hemi head saga. You'd think NHRA would FULLY investigate a request, make a decision based on ALL the pertinent information, and then stick by it. Flopping back and forth on an issue does nothing for their credibility and costs racers money for no reason.

The only guys to benefit from this one were the guys on eBay that were selling those old AMC/Edelbrock intakes, for a while the value of their junk soared!

Dick Butler · 04-17-2013, 02:17 PM

Who do you suppose was jealous enough to focus on the AMC? Only one or two in the country. To quote famous Tech men, "Its all dial in anyway". Anyone know if the bogus specs on 400 chevy changed yet? Any one know if the HP of the 71 Vette has been reduced to correlate with losing the Cold Air hood yet? Answers probably all NO. Just a case of attention to detail of ONE point, not in general. Maybe political...even if was reasonable by itself, So are the others...

Dyno · 04-17-2013, 02:31 PM

I am glad I did not buy the Hornet I was looking at. To bad NHRA changed the rules, it would have been a fun car. Dyno

Greg Hill · 04-17-2013, 03:53 PM

The only reason that stuff got approved to start with is that the person approving it didn't have a clue.

jmantle · 04-17-2013, 03:55 PM

Good for NHRA, the group 19 parts never should have been included in S/SS. I didn't check to see if they removed the reference to flat top pistons for the 360, they were another bogus item.
Now that NHRA his come down heavy on those of us in the minority, hopefully they correct some of the issues affecting the majority.

Jim Mantle V/SA 6632.

Randall Klein · 04-17-2013, 05:20 PM

Hey! whose the contact guy for some changes we'd like? yeah! swap out our 57 year old WCFB's for a couple of replacement little Holley's or AFB's (either one, don't care)

Also, if it takes about a half a year to correct it back, that's OK too, we'd be fast for awhile

Who do we petition? Thanks in advance

Steve OB · 04-17-2013, 07:43 PM

Cannibalism????

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SSDiv6 · 04-17-2013, 09:30 PM

I am not biased to any make or brand, nevertheless, the parts are catalog, over the counter items just like all other makes did at the time.
If you take a close look at the specs for many other makes, they also benefited of the same type of parts.

Is this some sort of prejudice on a car make that happens to be a minority in the classes?

How did the Chevy 283 got to use a 327 intake?
How do the Chevy 396/375 cam specs clear the piston dome without modification?
Ford engines using camshafts that were only available over the counter only?
C-4 bell housings that fit FE engines?
Mopar 273 with Edelbrock intakes; over the counter item?
Boss 351 with a Holley carb?
1967 Ford Fairlane 427/2x4 with an automatic?

The list can go on and on....

Are the other makes afraid of an AMC beating them in class?

04-17-2013, 01:06 PM	#2
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,631 Likes: 1,925 Liked 10,684 Times in 2,224 Posts	Re: AMC 66-72 optional specs removed Now if NHRA would only fix all the Ford FE stuff: crank, rods, carbs, cam, and intake. __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

04-17-2013, 01:43 PM	#3
Jeff Kempton Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada Posts: 236 Likes: 1,043 Liked 66 Times in 30 Posts	Re: AMC 66-72 optional specs removed This reminds me of the recent hemi head saga. You'd think NHRA would FULLY investigate a request, make a decision based on ALL the pertinent information, and then stick by it. Flopping back and forth on an issue does nothing for their credibility and costs racers money for no reason. The only guys to benefit from this one were the guys on eBay that were selling those old AMC/Edelbrock intakes, for a while the value of their junk soared!

04-17-2013, 02:17 PM	#4
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: AMC 66-72 optional specs removed Who do you suppose was jealous enough to focus on the AMC? Only one or two in the country. To quote famous Tech men, "Its all dial in anyway". Anyone know if the bogus specs on 400 chevy changed yet? Any one know if the HP of the 71 Vette has been reduced to correlate with losing the Cold Air hood yet? Answers probably all NO. Just a case of attention to detail of ONE point, not in general. Maybe political...even if was reasonable by itself, So are the others...

04-17-2013, 02:31 PM	#5
Dyno Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 915 Likes: 1,133 Liked 682 Times in 203 Posts	Re: AMC 66-72 optional specs removed I am glad I did not buy the Hornet I was looking at. To bad NHRA changed the rules, it would have been a fun car. Dyno Last edited by Dyno; 04-17-2013 at 11:13 PM.

04-17-2013, 03:53 PM	#6
Greg Hill VIP Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Louisville , KY Posts: 1,995 Likes: 68 Liked 279 Times in 68 Posts	Re: AMC 66-72 optional specs removed The only reason that stuff got approved to start with is that the person approving it didn't have a clue. __________________ Greg Hill 4171 STK

04-17-2013, 08:57 AM	#1
Travis Miller Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 478 Likes: 1 Liked 276 Times in 27 Posts	AMC 66-72 optional specs removed I received this info yesterday from NHRA.... "AMC 66-72 removed optional cam, carb, and intake as they were a dealer option not a factory option." For verification go to www.NHRARacer.com and check the Engine Specs and see that the optional carb, intake and camshaft has been removed effective 4/16/13. They are no longer on the engine spec sheet and will no longer be allowed in Stock or S/S.

04-17-2013, 03:55 PM	#7
jmantle Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Black Creek, BC Canada Posts: 331 Likes: 79 Liked 172 Times in 81 Posts	Re: AMC 66-72 optional specs removed Good for NHRA, the group 19 parts never should have been included in S/SS. I didn't check to see if they removed the reference to flat top pistons for the 360, they were another bogus item. Now that NHRA his come down heavy on those of us in the minority, hopefully they correct some of the issues affecting the majority. Jim Mantle V/SA 6632.

04-17-2013, 05:20 PM	#8
Randall Klein Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska Posts: 785 Likes: 45 Liked 316 Times in 67 Posts	Re: AMC 66-72 optional specs removed Hey! whose the contact guy for some changes we'd like? yeah! swap out our 57 year old WCFB's for a couple of replacement little Holley's or AFB's (either one, don't care) Also, if it takes about a half a year to correct it back, that's OK too, we'd be fast for awhile Who do we petition? Thanks in advance

04-17-2013, 07:43 PM	#9
Steve OB Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Lodi, Ohio Posts: 50 Likes: 3 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: AMC 66-72 optional specs removed Cannibalism???? Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Posts: 5,290 Default Re: Could a SC/360 Hornet be a viable combination for stock? Hold on to your money till next year.Wouldn't want to throw good money at bad.That's all I'll say. __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA __________________ Steve Obertanec

04-17-2013, 09:30 PM	#10
SSDiv6 VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Glendale, Arizona Posts: 3,043 Likes: 712 Liked 1,577 Times in 581 Posts	Re: AMC 66-72 optional specs removed I am not biased to any make or brand, nevertheless, the parts are catalog, over the counter items just like all other makes did at the time. If you take a close look at the specs for many other makes, they also benefited of the same type of parts. Is this some sort of prejudice on a car make that happens to be a minority in the classes? How did the Chevy 283 got to use a 327 intake? How do the Chevy 396/375 cam specs clear the piston dome without modification? Ford engines using camshafts that were only available over the counter only? C-4 bell housings that fit FE engines? Mopar 273 with Edelbrock intakes; over the counter item? Boss 351 with a Holley carb? 1967 Ford Fairlane 427/2x4 with an automatic? The list can go on and on.... Are the other makes afraid of an AMC beating them in class?