Danny Byrd

Jeff Lee · 04-30-2013, 07:59 PM

Let's get this straight...
The q-jet was a 1967 release and prior to that you got your GM's with various forms of Carter carbs and Holley Carbs for single 4bbl and then there were 2x4 carters and tri-powers on assorted GM vehicles. In fact, except for the 3x2 'Vettes, the tri-powers were last seen in 1966 due to the introduction of the q-jet in 1967.
And just to be clear, I've not only worked at gas stations and dealer service bays, but I know my Uncle had a '66 Chevy II with a 327 / 275 and so did three guys I grew up with in Brooklyn and nobody ever heard of a 1966 anything q-jet from GM. In fact, my best friend's butt-buddy has some documents that will prove this is baloney. And I've got a lot of car magazines that can prove my point also. And they date back to 1965 and none of them mention a 66 q-jet except for the release announcement in the October 1966 issue of "Fast Cars and Big-Uns" which as you all know is the definitive source of all things GM in the 1960's.
Something smells rotten in Denmark and I'm going to get to the bottom of this with NHRA!

Greg Hill · 04-30-2013, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

Let's get this straight...
The q-jet was a 1967 release and prior to that you got your GM's with various forms of Carter carbs and Holley Carbs for single 4bbl and then there were 2x4 carters and tri-powers on assorted GM vehicles. In fact, except for the 3x2 'Vettes, the tri-powers were last seen in 1966 due to the introduction of the q-jet in 1967.
And just to be clear, I've not only worked at gas stations and dealer service bays, but I know my Uncle had a '66 Chevy II with a 327 / 275 and so did three guys I grew up with in Brooklyn and nobody ever heard of a 1966 anything q-jet from GM. In fact, my best friend's butt-buddy has some documents that will prove this is baloney. And I've got a lot of car magazines that can prove my point also. And they date back to 1965 and none of them mention a 66 q-jet except for the release announcement in the October 1966 issue of "Fast Cars and Big-Uns" which as you all know is the definitive source of all things GM in the 1960's.
Something smells rotten in Denmark and I'm going to get to the bottom of this with NHRA!

Actually there were a lot of GM cars with a Q jet in 66 and even some in 65. The 396 / 325 Impala had a Q jet. Also all of the SS 396 / 325 Chevelles had a Q jet , the 360 horse had a Holley. I also think there were a bunch of Buicks and Oldsmobiles that had Q jets and I would bet Cadillacs. I can't swear to a 66 Chevy 11 with a 327 but it wouldn't surprise me. In 67 everyone got Q jets.

Mark Yacavone · 04-30-2013, 08:39 PM

Jeff ,I guess you've never seen a 65 Chevy 396/325 with a Qjet, either then?
That was the first actual usage by GM.
1966 saw Buick, Olds and Cadillac use them.
The only Pontiac to use them in 66 was the OHC 230 6 cylinder.
The same basic carb was later used on the 500 ci Caddy, proving the versatility of the Quadrajet.

james schaechter · 04-30-2013, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

Let's get this straight...
The q-jet was a 1967 release and prior to that you got your GM's with various forms of Carter carbs and Holley Carbs for single 4bbl and then there were 2x4 carters and tri-powers on assorted GM vehicles. In fact, except for the 3x2 'Vettes, the tri-powers were last seen in 1966 due to the introduction of the q-jet in 1967.
And just to be clear, I've not only worked at gas stations and dealer service bays, but I know my Uncle had a '66 Chevy II with a 327 / 275 and so did three guys I grew up with in Brooklyn and nobody ever heard of a 1966 anything q-jet from GM. In fact, my best friend's butt-buddy has some documents that will prove this is baloney. And I've got a lot of car magazines that can prove my point also. And they date back to 1965 and none of them mention a 66 q-jet except for the release announcement in the October 1966 issue of "Fast Cars and Big-Uns" which as you all know is the definitive source of all things GM in the 1960's.
Something smells rotten in Denmark and I'm going to get to the bottom of this with NHRA!

Jeff,
First of all, I am pretty sure your friend and his friend really appreciates that comment about their relationship.
Another thing. This has nothing to do with AMCs so let it go. You need to spend all of your energy getting your own stuff ready. LOL.

Andys dad · 04-30-2013, 09:10 PM

I don't know about all of these posts but ...
My brother had a non drag race, stock 327-350 and it was a rocket ship for the time - it weighed an once (2875) and beat anything it came up against. May not relate to NHRA stock eliminator but I have always felt it was one of the fastest cars ever produced in America. He beat my '61 Plymouth with a 413 and 2 4bls - for which I have never forgiven him ...

BTW - I thought the 442 Olds had q-jets in '64

Go easy on me I am old

Ron

Mark Yacavone · 04-30-2013, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Andys dad

BTW - I thought the 442 Olds had q-jets in '64

Go easy on me I am old

Ron

No. They had a fairly large 4GC 4-jet

Alan Nyhus · 04-30-2013, 10:33 PM

Jeff Lee:

Undoubtedly, the most common on the '66 327/275 from the factory was the small Holley, followed by the AVS and the QJ. That the QJ's weren't on the majority of cars is true...but what's also true is they DID come on some of them.

NHRA recognized this, and ruled on the legality of the QJ on the '66 327/275's. End of story.

Some of use have been around long enough to know and remember what happened, both as racers and/or NHRA Technical Advisors. -Al

Jeff Lee · 04-30-2013, 11:28 PM

Hey guys, looks like I won the bet. And it had nothing to do with any q-jets...

junior barns · 05-01-2013, 05:53 PM

[QUOTE=Alan Nyhus;379700]Jeff Lee:

Undoubtedly, the most common on the '66 327/275 from the factory was the small Holley, followed by the AVS and the QJ. That the QJ's weren't on the majority of cars is true...but what's also true is they DID come on some of them.

I thought this was a 327/350HP combo????

Alan Nyhus · 05-01-2013, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by junior barns

I thought this was a 327/350HP combo????

The 327-350 does have the small Holley, not the QJet.

The thread veered off track into what was legal on what combos of 327's...hence all the different references to small Holleys, AVS's and QJ's. -Al

04-30-2013, 07:59 PM	#1
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Danny Byrd Let's get this straight... The q-jet was a 1967 release and prior to that you got your GM's with various forms of Carter carbs and Holley Carbs for single 4bbl and then there were 2x4 carters and tri-powers on assorted GM vehicles. In fact, except for the 3x2 'Vettes, the tri-powers were last seen in 1966 due to the introduction of the q-jet in 1967. And just to be clear, I've not only worked at gas stations and dealer service bays, but I know my Uncle had a '66 Chevy II with a 327 / 275 and so did three guys I grew up with in Brooklyn and nobody ever heard of a 1966 anything q-jet from GM. In fact, my best friend's butt-buddy has some documents that will prove this is baloney. And I've got a lot of car magazines that can prove my point also. And they date back to 1965 and none of them mention a 66 q-jet except for the release announcement in the October 1966 issue of "Fast Cars and Big-Uns" which as you all know is the definitive source of all things GM in the 1960's. Something smells rotten in Denmark and I'm going to get to the bottom of this with NHRA! __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX

04-30-2013, 08:39 PM	#3
Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,818 Likes: 2,908 Liked 5,125 Times in 1,953 Posts	Re: Danny Byrd Jeff ,I guess you've never seen a 65 Chevy 396/325 with a Qjet, either then? That was the first actual usage by GM. 1966 saw Buick, Olds and Cadillac use them. The only Pontiac to use them in 66 was the OHC 230 6 cylinder. The same basic carb was later used on the 500 ci Caddy, proving the versatility of the Quadrajet. __________________ "We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for." Will Rogers

04-30-2013, 09:10 PM	#5
Andys dad VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Arcadia, Ca Posts: 1,571 Likes: 48 Liked 175 Times in 78 Posts	Re: Danny Byrd I don't know about all of these posts but ... My brother had a non drag race, stock 327-350 and it was a rocket ship for the time - it weighed an once (2875) and beat anything it came up against. May not relate to NHRA stock eliminator but I have always felt it was one of the fastest cars ever produced in America. He beat my '61 Plymouth with a 413 and 2 4bls - for which I have never forgiven him ... BTW - I thought the 442 Olds had q-jets in '64 Go easy on me I am old Ron __________________ time is our most precious resource, you can always make more money but you can never make more time spend your time wisely with the ones you love - Ron Durham

04-30-2013, 10:33 PM	#7
Alan Nyhus VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Lower Dakota territory Posts: 1,180 Likes: 1,074 Liked 799 Times in 236 Posts	Re: Danny Byrd Jeff Lee: Undoubtedly, the most common on the '66 327/275 from the factory was the small Holley, followed by the AVS and the QJ. That the QJ's weren't on the majority of cars is true...but what's also true is they DID come on some of them. NHRA recognized this, and ruled on the legality of the QJ on the '66 327/275's. End of story. Some of use have been around long enough to know and remember what happened, both as racers and/or NHRA Technical Advisors. -Al

04-30-2013, 11:28 PM	#8
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Danny Byrd Hey guys, looks like I won the bet. And it had nothing to do with any q-jets... __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX

05-01-2013, 05:53 PM	#9
junior barns Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 541 Likes: 11 Liked 20 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Danny Byrd [QUOTE=Alan Nyhus;379700]Jeff Lee: Undoubtedly, the most common on the '66 327/275 from the factory was the small Holley, followed by the AVS and the QJ. That the QJ's weren't on the majority of cars is true...but what's also true is they DID come on some of them. I thought this was a 327/350HP combo????