For Your Reading Pleasure....

boster · 05-09-2013, 12:40 AM

I run a low 8 second car in super stock , at a lot of track's I have raced in the last year mostly div races past the 1/8 th mile I'm seeing spike's in my data log on the drive shaft and feel the car moving around .

At the Atco Div1 race a few weeks ago I made one pass then parked the car for safety . I did not wait for any one to wreck. My car was real lose on the top and it was not safe

I run a 10in tire and at 165mph it needs to be glued on the top end . As racer"s when we know it's not safe we need to check are ego's and park the car's.

I agree with Mr Hughes 100% NHRA could do a better job on the tracks at div races since we are paying customer's

NHRA has some highly skilled people working for them , let guy's like Redman prepare the track the way it should be done and they would not have any complaints

No racer should die for a badly prepped track

Don Kennedy · 05-09-2013, 02:20 AM

The Problem all the racers do is complain to each other and never have a solution to their complaint to NHRA. We need to complaint about a problem and then offer a solution

Jeff Lee · 05-09-2013, 02:50 AM

At the very least, when you park it or leave the event due to safety issues, make sure the DD knows you are parking or leaving, and why.
Follow up with an polite email to Graham Light and NHRA Tech.

Michael Colaluca · 05-09-2013, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Don Kennedy

The Problem all the racers do is complain to each other and never have a solution to their complaint to NHRA. We need to complaint about a problem and then offer a solution

This man deserves a perfectly strange award!

Chris1529 · 05-09-2013, 09:11 AM

How about the part in which Hughes suggests that it should be a pro show only because of the track prep required? That they should use fillers such as Monster Trucks and wheel standers?

sounds alot like IHRA to me. How about the dancing backhoes they had at Rockingham a few years ago.

Pedigo Perf · 05-09-2013, 09:57 AM

I think NHRA has shifted from a competition based sport to an entertainment format. I think more Sports Nationals for us would be the way to go. Let them have the big show for Nitro and Monster Trucks. The run schedules for us "fillers" is simply degrading.

Tracy

KRatcliff · 05-09-2013, 10:49 AM

Hey Tracy. I just received my new issue of Drag Racer magazine. There is an article about the new techniques of plumbing NOS. Maybe you can upgrade your system.

Mike Graham · 05-09-2013, 01:18 PM

It may be time to separate the sportsman from the pros.
What if the divisional races were the venue for the sportsman racer? {Up to comp)
Raise the payout and the contingecy to attract more racers. This might be done by raising entry fees slightly and eliminating contingency at national events. This could be done at no cost to NHRA and probably zero net increase to to the contingency sponsors.
We would have places to race instead of camping in a parking lot. Track prep could be tailored to the sportsman and we could eliminate the out at 8 and back at 8 syndrome.

FED 387 · 05-09-2013, 04:11 PM

Just ran some numbers from the NHRA event registration site for the first 6 races this season---total quota 2849
total entries 2536
percent of quota 91%
pro entries 427
sportsman entries 2109
pro percentage 16.8%

if you take out G'ville & Charlotte because they also have PSM & PMOD you end up with the average Pro participation of ONLY 12.9% or 224 pro vs. 1726 sportsman---so you can see what is really going on here folks

2109 sportsman entries 6 events @$350 + per car & driver entry=$738,150
1726 sportsmanentries less G'ville & Charlotte @$350 +per car &driver entry =$604,100
plus add in any pit crew @ $80 each

They could run one round of the ALL the pros with 2 minutes per run allowed and do the whole thing in about 90 minutes so that the first T/fuel car with 50 min between round service could be sitting in the staging line to make another pass with 40 minutes to spare after his first pass

NHRA definately needs the sportsman there is know way they could get by without us unless they split the pros and sportsman and made the Nationals pro only and 2 day events--works for me how about you??? FED387

Hagen Gary · 05-09-2013, 07:22 PM

NHRA Definitely needs us at the Nationals.... Just to pay the bills. They don't care what time they run us, as long as we bring our entry money and a few pit crew members. Imagine how empty the stands would be if we weren’t there. Seriously, I know 9 people who would have never came to Houston if I wasn't racing. They like the sport, but would never have traveled to Houston and spent that kind of money unless I was there. I’m sure there are plenty of racers out there that can say the same. Sportsmen bring at least an avg of 3-4 people per car. That’s a lot of cash out of their pockets. As far as I'm concerned, they can have the Nationals as long as we have Sportsnats and the prize money/contingency from the Nationals. They can even have the track oiling Alkys, TS and TDs. Those take so damn long to run it will be plenty of fill between pros.

05-09-2013, 12:40 AM	#1
boster Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: usa Posts: 958 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: For Your Reading Pleasure.... I run a low 8 second car in super stock , at a lot of track's I have raced in the last year mostly div races past the 1/8 th mile I'm seeing spike's in my data log on the drive shaft and feel the car moving around . At the Atco Div1 race a few weeks ago I made one pass then parked the car for safety . I did not wait for any one to wreck. My car was real lose on the top and it was not safe I run a 10in tire and at 165mph it needs to be glued on the top end . As racer"s when we know it's not safe we need to check are ego's and park the car's. I agree with Mr Hughes 100% NHRA could do a better job on the tracks at div races since we are paying customer's NHRA has some highly skilled people working for them , let guy's like Redman prepare the track the way it should be done and they would not have any complaints No racer should die for a badly prepped track __________________ Bo Kenney Last edited by boster; 05-09-2013 at 09:39 AM.

05-09-2013, 02:20 AM	#2
Don Kennedy VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Near Portland TN Posts: 1,590 Likes: 3,876 Liked 902 Times in 237 Posts	Re: For Your Reading Pleasure.... The Problem all the racers do is complain to each other and never have a solution to their complaint to NHRA. We need to complaint about a problem and then offer a solution __________________ Don Kennedy 7701 SS

05-09-2013, 02:50 AM	#3
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: For Your Reading Pleasure.... At the very least, when you park it or leave the event due to safety issues, make sure the DD knows you are parking or leaving, and why. Follow up with an polite email to Graham Light and NHRA Tech. __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX

05-09-2013, 09:11 AM	#5
Chris1529 VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,366 Likes: 6 Liked 70 Times in 29 Posts	Re: For Your Reading Pleasure.... How about the part in which Hughes suggests that it should be a pro show only because of the track prep required? That they should use fillers such as Monster Trucks and wheel standers? sounds alot like IHRA to me. How about the dancing backhoes they had at Rockingham a few years ago. __________________ Chris Bowman The Mountain State Mustang 1984 Mustang GT350

05-09-2013, 09:57 AM	#6
Pedigo Perf Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Wichita Ks Posts: 383 Likes: 70 Liked 30 Times in 17 Posts	Re: For Your Reading Pleasure.... I think NHRA has shifted from a competition based sport to an entertainment format. I think more Sports Nationals for us would be the way to go. Let them have the big show for Nitro and Monster Trucks. The run schedules for us "fillers" is simply degrading. Tracy

05-09-2013, 10:49 AM	#7
KRatcliff Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 763 Likes: 75 Liked 524 Times in 141 Posts	Re: For Your Reading Pleasure.... Hey Tracy. I just received my new issue of Drag Racer magazine. There is an article about the new techniques of plumbing NOS. Maybe you can upgrade your system.

05-09-2013, 01:18 PM	#8
Mike Graham Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 410 Likes: 1 Liked 341 Times in 67 Posts	Re: For Your Reading Pleasure.... It may be time to separate the sportsman from the pros. What if the divisional races were the venue for the sportsman racer? {Up to comp) Raise the payout and the contingecy to attract more racers. This might be done by raising entry fees slightly and eliminating contingency at national events. This could be done at no cost to NHRA and probably zero net increase to to the contingency sponsors. We would have places to race instead of camping in a parking lot. Track prep could be tailored to the sportsman and we could eliminate the out at 8 and back at 8 syndrome.

05-09-2013, 04:11 PM	#9
FED 387 VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,416 Likes: 522 Liked 330 Times in 178 Posts	Re: For Your Reading Pleasure.... Just ran some numbers from the NHRA event registration site for the first 6 races this season---total quota 2849 total entries 2536 percent of quota 91% pro entries 427 sportsman entries 2109 pro percentage 16.8% if you take out G'ville & Charlotte because they also have PSM & PMOD you end up with the average Pro participation of ONLY 12.9% or 224 pro vs. 1726 sportsman---so you can see what is really going on here folks 2109 sportsman entries 6 events @$350 + per car & driver entry=$738,150 1726 sportsmanentries less G'ville & Charlotte @$350 +per car &driver entry =$604,100 plus add in any pit crew @ $80 each They could run one round of the ALL the pros with 2 minutes per run allowed and do the whole thing in about 90 minutes so that the first T/fuel car with 50 min between round service could be sitting in the staging line to make another pass with 40 minutes to spare after his first pass NHRA definately needs the sportsman there is know way they could get by without us unless they split the pros and sportsman and made the Nationals pro only and 2 day events--works for me how about you??? FED387

05-09-2013, 07:22 PM	#10
Hagen Gary Live Reporter Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Cajun country Posts: 339 Likes: 51 Liked 34 Times in 10 Posts	Re: For Your Reading Pleasure.... NHRA Definitely needs us at the Nationals.... Just to pay the bills. They don't care what time they run us, as long as we bring our entry money and a few pit crew members. Imagine how empty the stands would be if we weren’t there. Seriously, I know 9 people who would have never came to Houston if I wasn't racing. They like the sport, but would never have traveled to Houston and spent that kind of money unless I was there. I’m sure there are plenty of racers out there that can say the same. Sportsmen bring at least an avg of 3-4 people per car. That’s a lot of cash out of their pockets. As far as I'm concerned, they can have the Nationals as long as we have Sportsnats and the prize money/contingency from the Nationals. They can even have the track oiling Alkys, TS and TDs. Those take so damn long to run it will be plenty of fill between pros.