What has happened in Pro Stock - Page 4

Mike Taylor 3601 · 06-03-2013, 08:32 AM

Bill Koski said Mike Edwards is running off with points,but now with countdown that screws that up,he did that a few years ago and countdown cost him championship,
I don't like countdown if a guy can run off with championship and have wrapped up with 3 or 4 races left then I think they deserve it.

My main problem w/pros is
2-3 people practically owning the whole field
the countdown
1000' racing
$'s it takes has put and keeps a lot of good racers out.

Mike Taylor 3601

Ed Wright · 06-03-2013, 09:28 AM

I can't believe some can't tell the cars apart.

I don't like the count down either.

It's hard to understand a racer not being impressed and interested in the technology involved. Much of our engine building technology trickled down from there. Fuel cars? Not so much.

I guess maybe the bracket contingent that buys their engines may not be that interested.

I would love to be a fly on the wall of Mike's engine shop. Al introduced me to one of Mike's engine guys at Indy last year. Got to pick his brain a little. Highlight of my weekend.

1320racer · 06-03-2013, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright

I guess maybe the bracket contingent that buys their engines may not be that interested.

Newsflash Ed, the stock/super stock contingent buys their engines too! Perhaps you've heard of Tilburg, Watters and Gulius.

Casey Miles · 06-03-2013, 10:40 AM

Pro Stock is out dated at this time, there are no 500 inch cars with 2 carbs any longer. The Pro Stock class of today are funny cars but with doors. Pro Stock should go back to a backed halfed bodies in white, with flat hoods. Fuel injected, no more then 370 ci. It would bring alot of different combinations and new faces into the field. It wouldn't be the same 22 cars that show up. Let the cars come back to Pro "Stock" It would bring the class closer to the modern day vehicles. Also the cost to run one would come back down to reason. Just a different look at the class.

Casey Miles
248H "F" NHRA STOCK

Ed Wright · 06-03-2013, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 1320racer

Newsflash Ed, the stock/super stock contingent buys their engines too! Perhaps you've heard of Tilburg, Watters and Gulius.

Dilbert, SS is who I'm talking about. Many still build their own. Others don't care to go faster, don't test to get faster, just bracket race it.

1320racer · 06-03-2013, 11:01 AM

1970 was a long time ago, most buy their engines and the racers typically collecting Wallys are current or former bracket racers!

Ed Wright · 06-03-2013, 11:43 AM

Yep. That dumbed it down with these bogus-soft indexes to where anybody with anything can run under. Like "for a grand".

Want to add, not just anybody could have put one under the index "for a grand", but even Billy putting one under the index for that amount means the indexes are too soft.

Bracket racing is where the slow guys that just could not run fast enough used to go. Now on Sunday everybody is fast. Don't have to know anything anymore.

Pedigo Perf · 06-03-2013, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Casey Miles

Pro Stock is out dated at this time, there are no 500 inch cars with 2 carbs any longer. The Pro Stock class of today are funny cars but with doors. Pro Stock should go back to a backed halfed bodies in white, with flat hoods. Fuel injected, no more then 370 ci. It would bring alot of different combinations and new faces into the field. It wouldn't be the same 22 cars that show up. Let the cars come back to Pro "Stock" It would bring the class closer to the modern day vehicles. Also the cost to run one would come back down to reason. Just a different look at the class.

Casey Miles
248H "F" NHRA STOCK

The only way the cost would go down is outlaw wealthy people from racing Pro Stock. Not going to happen.

KRatcliff · 06-03-2013, 12:07 PM

Isn't that the purpose of drag racing? To eliminate wealth?

Pedigo Perf · 06-03-2013, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KRatcliff

Isn't that the purpose of drag racing? To eliminate wealth?

Amen to that. Good thing you have Pete to keep you in check.

TP

06-03-2013, 08:32 AM	#31
Mike Taylor 3601 VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Somerset,Ky Posts: 1,369 Likes: 348 Liked 292 Times in 101 Posts	Re: What has happened in Pro Stock Bill Koski said Mike Edwards is running off with points,but now with countdown that screws that up,he did that a few years ago and countdown cost him championship, I don't like countdown if a guy can run off with championship and have wrapped up with 3 or 4 races left then I think they deserve it. My main problem w/pros is 2-3 people practically owning the whole field the countdown 1000' racing $'s it takes has put and keeps a lot of good racers out. Mike Taylor 3601

06-03-2013, 09:28 AM	#32
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: What has happened in Pro Stock I can't believe some can't tell the cars apart. I don't like the count down either. It's hard to understand a racer not being impressed and interested in the technology involved. Much of our engine building technology trickled down from there. Fuel cars? Not so much. I guess maybe the bracket contingent that buys their engines may not be that interested. I would love to be a fly on the wall of Mike's engine shop. Al introduced me to one of Mike's engine guys at Indy last year. Got to pick his brain a little. Highlight of my weekend. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

06-03-2013, 10:40 AM	#34
Casey Miles Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 703 Likes: 127 Liked 488 Times in 90 Posts	Re: What has happened in Pro Stock Pro Stock is out dated at this time, there are no 500 inch cars with 2 carbs any longer. The Pro Stock class of today are funny cars but with doors. Pro Stock should go back to a backed halfed bodies in white, with flat hoods. Fuel injected, no more then 370 ci. It would bring alot of different combinations and new faces into the field. It wouldn't be the same 22 cars that show up. Let the cars come back to Pro "Stock" It would bring the class closer to the modern day vehicles. Also the cost to run one would come back down to reason. Just a different look at the class. Casey Miles 248H "F" NHRA STOCK

06-03-2013, 11:01 AM	#36
1320racer VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,628 Likes: 160 Liked 759 Times in 379 Posts	Re: What has happened in Pro Stock 1970 was a long time ago, most buy their engines and the racers typically collecting Wallys are current or former bracket racers! Last edited by 1320racer; 06-03-2013 at 11:06 AM.

06-03-2013, 11:43 AM	#37
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: What has happened in Pro Stock Yep. That dumbed it down with these bogus-soft indexes to where anybody with anything can run under. Like "for a grand". Want to add, not just anybody could have put one under the index "for a grand", but even Billy putting one under the index for that amount means the indexes are too soft. Bracket racing is where the slow guys that just could not run fast enough used to go. Now on Sunday everybody is fast. Don't have to know anything anymore. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA Last edited by Ed Wright; 06-03-2013 at 02:01 PM.

06-03-2013, 12:07 PM	#39
KRatcliff Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 763 Likes: 75 Liked 524 Times in 141 Posts	Re: What has happened in Pro Stock Isn't that the purpose of drag racing? To eliminate wealth?