Radial Tire question...

james schaechter · 06-10-2013, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 1320racer

radials slicks back in '93, I don't think so! Maybe you were a tenth quicker with a slow "big block" olds back when it was running in the 12's but NOT with a real big block launching a nearly 2 ton ride...

Don't be so quick to reply. You can race a long time and not know everything. Why you would doubt Jim Kaekel is a mystery to anyone that has seen him race for decades in division 3 with a stocker. I get it; your old bracket car was cool! I had a poster of it. It does not make Jim wrong.

Ed Wright · 06-10-2013, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by james schaechter

Don't be so quick to reply. You can race a long time and not know everything. Why you would doubt Jim Kaekel is a mystery to anyone that has seen him race for decades in division 3 with a stocker. I get it; your old bracket car was cool! I had a poster of it. It does not make Jim wrong.

And, he does wheel stands the rest of us can't do. He even has pictures of them! lamo!!

buzzinhalfdozen · 06-10-2013, 03:57 PM

Comparing your bracket car to an actual STOCKER is meaningless...... I've never used the "small tire" however big or small block on a big tire it's .08 to .12 in almost every case. This may or may not be due to the physical size of the tire I don't know. Oh and James he does indeed know everything just ask him.

Ed Wright · 06-10-2013, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by buzzinhalfdozen

Comparing your bracket car to an actual STOCKER is meaningless...... I've never used the "small tire" however big or small block on a big tire it's .08 to .12 in almost every case. This may or may not be due to the physical size of the tire I don't know. Oh and James he does indeed know everything just ask him.

I was told long ago by a guy at ATI, the bracket cars don't get the same converters we do. Those don't "hit" as hard due to the poorer track conditions they often encounter.
Ditto the "10.5" shoot out" cars. Apples & oranges.

With my little 3240 lb, 350" SS car, radials were usually almost two 10ths quicker before I had it back-halved. 10.5" tires back then. have not tried bigger bias tires yet. Can't spin these suckers.

1320racer · 06-10-2013, 04:12 PM

now the self proclaimed all knowing stock/super stock experts have now entered this thread spewing bad and inaccurate info!

Ed Wright · 06-10-2013, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 1320racer

now the self proclaimed all knowing stock/super stock experts have now entered this thread spewing bad and inaccurate info!

I think the only all knowing self proclaimed expert would be you?

Might ask ATI if you have the same converter they would sell you for a Stock or Super Stock?
They do make a lot of bracket converters too.

1320racer · 06-10-2013, 04:48 PM

I'm not impressed! I was running those times in the mid 90's at over 4000 lbs., with a Q-Jet and driving my car to and from the track every weekend!

Meanwhile, I only offer advice and reply about what I KNOW and I KNOW radial slicks, get over it!

442OLDS · 06-10-2013, 04:53 PM

I am not really sure what the arguing is about in this thread,but we race two Olds 442 Stockers and have been running radials for awhile now.They are worth about .07-.08 on our cars.No way a tenth.

We have tried them all at one time or another also.Right now,Hoosier really has their ***** together.I made four runs over the weekend,and 3 of 4 were the same 60 ft right to the thousandth.I was only running 1.531,which is a little slower than I would like,but I ran the car for the first time at 4,080 pounds.Over two tons of fun.

james schaechter · 06-11-2013, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 1320racer

now the self proclaimed all knowing stock/super stock experts have now entered this thread spewing bad and inaccurate info!

My point was that you can be right and others can be right. Most people (most) draw upon first hand experience and attempt to be helpful to others. They try and share their experiences with their cars.

I know that understanding stock and superstock along with our quirky rules can be difficult, but most of what racers know is derived from their on track experiences.

I would not figure that I could apply tuning aids from my stocker to a rat motor Chevelle, but it does not mean you didn't have yours set up right because of that.

1320racer · 06-11-2013, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by james schaechter

I would not figure that I could apply tuning aids from my stocker to a rat motor Chevelle, but it does not mean you didn't have yours set up right because of that.

you would figure WRONG when talking about my cars that are stock and super stock legal class cars except the for engines under the hood!

06-10-2013, 03:57 PM	#3
buzzinhalfdozen Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bellevue Ohio Posts: 984 Likes: 0 Liked 11 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Radial Tire question... Comparing your bracket car to an actual STOCKER is meaningless...... I've never used the "small tire" however big or small block on a big tire it's .08 to .12 in almost every case. This may or may not be due to the physical size of the tire I don't know. Oh and James he does indeed know everything just ask him. __________________ Joe Buchanan SS/BX 3117

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1320racer VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,628 Likes: 160 Liked 759 Times in 379 Posts	Re: Radial Tire question... now the self proclaimed all knowing stock/super stock experts have now entered this thread spewing bad and inaccurate info!

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1320racer VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,628 Likes: 160 Liked 759 Times in 379 Posts	Re: Radial Tire question... I'm not impressed! I was running those times in the mid 90's at over 4000 lbs., with a Q-Jet and driving my car to and from the track every weekend! Meanwhile, I only offer advice and reply about what I KNOW and I KNOW radial slicks, get over it! Last edited by 1320racer; 06-10-2013 at 04:52 PM.

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442OLDS VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Elgin,IL Posts: 1,340 Likes: 5 Liked 282 Times in 103 Posts	Re: Radial Tire question... I am not really sure what the arguing is about in this thread,but we race two Olds 442 Stockers and have been running radials for awhile now.They are worth about .07-.08 on our cars.No way a tenth. We have tried them all at one time or another also.Right now,Hoosier really has their ***** together.I made four runs over the weekend,and 3 of 4 were the same 60 ft right to the thousandth.I was only running 1.531,which is a little slower than I would like,but I ran the car for the first time at 4,080 pounds.Over two tons of fun.