Well spank my - Page 8

Jeff Lee · 06-13-2013, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by MikeFicacci
"We received the same letter for one of the cars. We were told at Virginia that the letter was coming and to fix it immediately. Jack, you and I spoke about the phone call you received 6 weeks ago stated that you could no longer notch the bumper and you stated that you have another you can easily put on. the fact remains, we were told about this months ago."

1320 does not seem to understand that until you receive something in writing or it is published by NHRA, it's not official notification. Apparently Jack did not receive anything official from NHRA nor was anything published by NHRA indicating the notches were not allowed.

This forum is full of pages about "something that NHRA will make official", but never pans out to full official status. To say Jack was informed, is incorrect. He was given notice and that, as always, is subject to change upon official notification. What if Jack replaced his bumper cover and had it painted to satisfy a rumored change then two weeks later NHRA decides wheelie bar notches isn't such a bad idea after all?

I believe Jack handled the situation correctly. Now that he has "official" notification, I'm sure the dealership has the parts he needs to make NHRA happy.

P.S. Looks like Jack and I were writing our responses at the same time...

C and W Racing · 06-13-2013, 12:44 PM

[quote=Jack Matyas;386217]

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Originally Posted by C and W Racing

Chuck - Just to clear up the record - I made the necessary ( including pics and paperwork ) repairs and was cleared to race at Maple Grove and Englishtown .My thoughts are perhaps they had a change of heart on the repairs - but it would have been very easy to tell me that at Englishtown - I certainly was available and stayed till Saturday night .

Jack, If thats the case, I feel like you are right in the assumption that everything was ok, and yes, if they were not happy with it, then something should have been said at Englishtown.
Chuck

Bobby Fazio · 06-13-2013, 01:56 PM

Ok here's my dumb question and it's not to be funny, it's seriously because I don't know - why don't these factory powerhouse race cars come with wheelie bars and proper valances to accompany them? I understand that no factory driver comes with wheelie bars but these are factory race cars. At least make a bumper to accompany wheelie bar add-on and then no cutting, notching, etc. is required.

442OLDS · 06-13-2013, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Fazio

Ok here's my dumb question and it's not to be funny, it's seriously because I don't know - why don't these factory powerhouse race cars come with wheelie bars and proper valances to accompany them? I understand that no factory driver comes with wheelie bars but these are factory race cars. At least make a bumper to accompany wheelie bar add-on and then no cutting, notching, etc. is required.

I was thinking the same thing.For what they cost,it should be included.Might as well have a factory installed parachute too.

Ed Wright · 06-13-2013, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 442OLDS

I was thinking the same thing.For what they cost,it should be included.Might as well have a factory installed parachute too.

Both could not hurt. Then, no questions.

Hustler1098 · 06-13-2013, 04:18 PM

What do you mean made the necessary repairs and then ran two more races? So after the phone call you fixed the car, ran two races, and then they told you that wasn't good enough? Or you fixed it, they still sent the letter because they assumed that you hadn't? I'm confused.

This is coming from someone who bracket races all the time, and would love to convert my street driven Trans Am into a stocker, that's why I'm curious.

I can't imagine wanting to spend the money you guys spend and then get treated like you do. However, it sounds like to me this is a petty gripe. From what I've read, one of two things happened. Jack was told to fix it and didn't, slid by two races so he assumed he could keep sliding by, then got caught. Or he was told to fix it, did in fact fix it, but just wanted to come on here and gripe about the letter he felt like was a few weeks late.

No disrespect at all. I hardly ever post here, just lurk, but I just feel like the entire story hasn't been explained in a single post yet.

I just reread some of your posts. Maybe I misread them? Maybe you fixed it and it still wasn't to their liking? I'm just trying to get a clear story as moving from brackets to class racing was looking appealing. Just unsure of how you got a call weeks ago, did some type of repair, but then act like you had no clue this was coming?

Toby Lang · 06-13-2013, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by C and W Racing

Jack, If thats the case, I feel like you are right in the assumption that everything was ok, and yes, if they were not happy with it, then something should have been said at Englishtown.
Chuck

He said he was cleared for Maple Grove and Englishtown. I take that to mean what it says. He was cleared for 2 races.

I agree with what other people are saying. If they are going to allow wheelie bars, they should allow enough clearance for them.

Ed Fernandez · 06-13-2013, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Fazio

Ok here's my dumb question and it's not to be funny, it's seriously because I don't know - why don't these factory powerhouse race cars come with wheelie bars and proper valances to accompany them? I understand that no factory driver comes with wheelie bars but these are factory race cars. At least make a bumper to accompany wheelie bar add-on and then no cutting, notching, etc. is required.

Bobby,I would imagine they dont because there's a bunch of wheelie bar designs out there (including mono bar) that it wouldn't be cost effective to stamp out different valances.It's easier for the owner/chassis guy to fab the cutouts.

Ed Fernandez · 06-13-2013, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Phillip marvetz

I'm all for banning Ed for life.

Jeez,what's with this Ed stuff?Remember my buddy Ed Obrien?

Mike Gray · 06-13-2013, 05:01 PM

Ah heck just put the cut out pieces back in the valance with a hinge on the inside, ala funny car tail lights. Everyone is happy.

06-13-2013, 12:32 PM	#71
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Well spank my Originally Posted by MikeFicacci "We received the same letter for one of the cars. We were told at Virginia that the letter was coming and to fix it immediately. Jack, you and I spoke about the phone call you received 6 weeks ago stated that you could no longer notch the bumper and you stated that you have another you can easily put on. the fact remains, we were told about this months ago." 1320 does not seem to understand that until you receive something in writing or it is published by NHRA, it's not official notification. Apparently Jack did not receive anything official from NHRA nor was anything published by NHRA indicating the notches were not allowed. This forum is full of pages about "something that NHRA will make official", but never pans out to full official status. To say Jack was informed, is incorrect. He was given notice and that, as always, is subject to change upon official notification. What if Jack replaced his bumper cover and had it painted to satisfy a rumored change then two weeks later NHRA decides wheelie bar notches isn't such a bad idea after all? I believe Jack handled the situation correctly. Now that he has "official" notification, I'm sure the dealership has the parts he needs to make NHRA happy. P.S. Looks like Jack and I were writing our responses at the same time... __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX

06-13-2013, 01:56 PM	#73
Bobby Fazio VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Egg Harbor Township, NJ Posts: 1,468 Likes: 1,448 Liked 4,365 Times in 501 Posts	Re: Well spank my Ok here's my dumb question and it's not to be funny, it's seriously because I don't know - why don't these factory powerhouse race cars come with wheelie bars and proper valances to accompany them? I understand that no factory driver comes with wheelie bars but these are factory race cars. At least make a bumper to accompany wheelie bar add-on and then no cutting, notching, etc. is required. __________________ '65 Mustang SS/L & L/SA DriverInterviews.com \| App.DragInsights.com

06-13-2013, 04:18 PM	#76
Hustler1098 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 8 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Well spank my What do you mean made the necessary repairs and then ran two more races? So after the phone call you fixed the car, ran two races, and then they told you that wasn't good enough? Or you fixed it, they still sent the letter because they assumed that you hadn't? I'm confused. This is coming from someone who bracket races all the time, and would love to convert my street driven Trans Am into a stocker, that's why I'm curious. I can't imagine wanting to spend the money you guys spend and then get treated like you do. However, it sounds like to me this is a petty gripe. From what I've read, one of two things happened. Jack was told to fix it and didn't, slid by two races so he assumed he could keep sliding by, then got caught. Or he was told to fix it, did in fact fix it, but just wanted to come on here and gripe about the letter he felt like was a few weeks late. No disrespect at all. I hardly ever post here, just lurk, but I just feel like the entire story hasn't been explained in a single post yet. I just reread some of your posts. Maybe I misread them? Maybe you fixed it and it still wasn't to their liking? I'm just trying to get a clear story as moving from brackets to class racing was looking appealing. Just unsure of how you got a call weeks ago, did some type of repair, but then act like you had no clue this was coming? Last edited by Hustler1098; 06-13-2013 at 04:22 PM.

06-13-2013, 05:01 PM	#80
Mike Gray Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 617 Likes: 311 Liked 687 Times in 198 Posts	Re: Well spank my Ah heck just put the cut out pieces back in the valance with a hinge on the inside, ala funny car tail lights. Everyone is happy.