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Old 06-17-2013, 09:57 PM   #31
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I was told by my Father that in Stock or Super Stock you must take advantage of everything you can from the front bumper to the rear bumper. Everything must work FOR you not AGAINST you, and you need to know all the rules and use them to your advantage. That is what I think the spirit of the racing is, but most folks just say "I can put this power adder on and run the same as you". They don't understand racing and tomorrow something new and shiney will attract their attention.

I do agree about the open trailers, used to watch them roll through town and knew by the direction they were going as to where there might be some races. I just feel there is too much liability out there to have something lost or stolen or damaged.
I will say one more thing, there were plenty of enclosed trailers at the Hot Rod Reunion this past weekend and the stands were full. I was there at the Sportsnationals and could set anywhere I wanted. Now go figure that.
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Old 06-17-2013, 09:58 PM   #32
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The problem I see today is the way we race, how exciting is it to watch a car launch then stop then nail it again or run to the 1000' and run 100mph at the finish line BOREING & STUPID! Turn them SUCKERS LOOSE and RACE stock and super stock used to be a performance based class where you run what it would run and if you were fast enough you might get a national record that really ment something.The record section in the dragster looks like drag review.Put the sprit of competition back into racing make your performance mean something again. No more 1000' racing.Screw the AHFS.Stupid is as stupid does.
That's all I got to say about that.
Jeff, I'm not sure if you raced back in 1975, ,But NHRA has been there..done that..
If they had continued along that path ,there would be NO Stock and Super Stock eliminators today with NHRA.
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Old 06-17-2013, 10:04 PM   #33
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Good points brought up in this thread.

I was too young to remember the late 60's and early 70's class racing.
I got hooked on drag racing in 1976 and stated getting National Dragster in 1977.

I was in awe looking at the pics of the Stockers and all the Super Stockers with the big fat tires. (especially when I saw them on open trailers)
However....that was at a time when those cars were the only game in town.

Fast forward to now.
Young guys can make silly horsepower so easy now with turbos and superchargers. (even easier with nitrous)

The heads up 8.5, and 10.5 races are proof .
The young gearheads flock to watch those 8 second 1,200 plus horsepower beasts. (on Drag Radials)

It's hard to top that.
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Old 06-17-2013, 11:51 PM   #34
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Foreign cars have been allowed in MX and SS/E&FS for years, I don't see anyone beating down the doors to run them. We are in the works on a SS/DX honda, it should be out next year.

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Old 06-18-2013, 12:07 AM   #35
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Jeff, I'm not sure if you raced back in 1975, ,But NHRA has been there..done that..
If they had continued along that path ,there would be NO Stock and Super Stock eliminators today with NHRA.
And at the rate it's going now it wont be around much longer, I suggest if you want to ET race go do it at a local track. That's what I would do.But that's not what class racing is all about.
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Old 06-18-2013, 12:12 AM   #36
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Good points brought up in this thread.

I was too young to remember the late 60's and early 70's class racing.
I got hooked on drag racing in 1976 and stated getting National Dragster in 1977.

I was in awe looking at the pics of the Stockers and all the Super Stockers with the big fat tires. (especially when I saw them on open trailers)
However....that was at a time when those cars were the only game in town.

Fast forward to now.
Young guys can make silly horsepower so easy now with turbos and superchargers. (even easier with nitrous)

The heads up 8.5, and 10.5 races are proof .
The young gearheads flock to watch those 8 second 1,200 plus horsepower beasts. (on Drag Radials)

It's hard to top that.
I think that anybody that goes to see a drag race expects to see just that,not a peddle fest at a 1000'. And yes these heads up cars are awsome.
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Over the years an enclosed trailer has pretty much become a requirement due to theft and vandalism at the track or on route. At the same time its also a place to stay out of inclement weather when at the track, I remember many times huddled in the truck with heater roaring to keep warm at the track. Also when was the last time any of us brought our race cars to the local carshow / show and shine on a off weekend. Most likely not many. I know i am guilty of this, used too bring mine out on every oppertunity I had. Running or not. I aways had people young and old come over and ask questions about the car and about dragracing.


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Old 06-18-2013, 01:36 AM   #38
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If I say this again I think my nuts are going to fall off.WE'RE NOT A CAR CULTURE SOCIETY anymore.Younger generation could care less.I read an article stating they're all consumed by their electronics and video games.A study also said car ownership by under 25 years old's is at an all time low.
As far as spectators here in the NYC area there's the fiercest competition for peoples
entertainment dollar.And *iss on the foreign cars and pure stockers,they couldn't draw a family of flies.
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Old 06-18-2013, 08:36 AM   #39
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The problem I see today is the way we race, how exciting is it to watch a car launch then stop then nail it again or run to the 1000' and run 100mph at the finish line BOREING & STUPID! Turn them SUCKERS LOOSE and RACE stock and super stock used to be a performance based class where you run what it would run and if you were fast enough you might get a national record that really ment something.The record section in the dragster looks like drag review.Put the sprit of competition back into racing make your performance mean something again. No more 1000' racing.Screw the AHFS.Stupid is as stupid does.
That's all I got to say about that.
There you go!! Accidentally go too fast, and while climbing out of the car back at the trailer and your phone starts going off, telling you how dumb you are and telling you how to slow it down. I would think "Oops! Bet he didn't 't mean to do that!" Not start calling to tell them how dumb they are for not playing 1000' games. This has become worse than et brackets. At least nobody complains about how fast you dial your bracket car.

And, no. I'm not moving up a class at Indy without pulling the weight.
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Kyle,

We used to have what was called the Expo in downtown Dallas before the fall nationals. Pro's, Sportsman, and even local bracket/junior racers were invited. It was pretty much a big festival downtown where fans could spend the day with drivers and it brought in alot of business for the downtown stores that normally wouldn't get many people in the middle of the week(I want to say it was on Wednesday before the national). I raced juniors at the time and they blocked off a street section for us to make hits down it for the fans. From what I remember it was a huge success(not to mention I got to miss school) but the fans loved it.
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