E Town Track Prep

joe176 · 06-22-2013, 07:48 AM

Any ideas on the track prep Wednesday nights .... Looking to test ... Don't wanna waste my time if I can't hit it hard in 60'..... Atco was disappointing on Father's Day ... Good for a little while then was gone for the rest of the day as nothing was done to maintain it

Signman · 06-22-2013, 08:39 AM

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1347 · 06-22-2013, 09:08 AM

Im not sure if the Wednesday night traction problem is 100% true, they have been running a 500 dollar race and there are a lot of 9 and 10 second cars running. Ficacci was there last week, Linke runs those nights, so you might want to talk to a couple people who have run down there this year, I ran 9 or 10 of those races last year, and traction wasn't a problem.

just my 2 cents

Duane

06-22-2013, 09:23 AM

The gamblers program at Etown works well for a test and tune. I was there last Wednesday and made 4 runs before 8:30, winning one round of the gamblers. It's a good program and I plan to go as often as I can to test and practice. They spray the track before the gambler cars go out each time. It's a good deal and worth a try at least once. Rules are no delay boxes or throttle stops, everything else goes. The Sunday's take all day, and racing dragsters and delayboxes are not fun. If your car doesn't hook on Wednesday night, you better work on it.

John Duzac · 06-22-2013, 09:45 AM

I cannot say much about how they prep the track at E Town, but if they are using PJ1 for traction on compound, chances are the starting line will not be very good. When track temp. gets to 95 to a 100 degrees things get really bad. Everyone has been having trouble with traction issues this year, especially stick cars. Time was, when you would walk out on the starting line, it would pull your shoes off. That was when VHT was being used. Anyway it adds up, VHT or PJ1, something has changed and it shows on your 60 foot time and on your shoes. They say PJ1 is the same as VHT, only costing less money per drum. Just walk out on the starting line and see for yourself if your shoes stick to the track. You will be in for a surprise.

Something's different and I know VHT worked and they changed the name of the product to PJ1 and now many people are having trouble hooking up.

Bob Hochrun · 06-22-2013, 09:49 AM

Joe. E town Wednesday night good if you get ur runs in before 730. When I go to test i try to make first pass by 615 and second before 730. After that its it or miss with all the front wheel cars .

Michael Beard · 06-22-2013, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by John Duzac

I cannot say much about how they prep the track at E Town, but if they are using PJ1 for traction on compound, chances are the starting line will not be very good. When track temp. gets to 95 to a 100 degrees things get really bad. Everyone has been having trouble with traction issues this year, especially stick cars. Time was, when you would walk out on the starting line, it would pull your shoes off. That was when VHT was being used. Anyway it adds up, VHT or PJ1, something has changed and it shows on your 60 foot time and on your shoes. They say PJ1 is the same as VHT, only costing less money per drum. Just walk out on the starting line and see for yourself if your shoes stick to the track. You will be in for a surprise.

Something's different and I know VHT worked and they changed the name of the product to PJ1 and now many people are having trouble hooking up.

As a number of others have responded to this kind of post in the past, PJ1 is VHT. They are the same product. PJ1 is the parent company.

I received an e-mail last week from a track out west, which stated:

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I am one of the Drag Strips that is listed in staging light. Thank You! I have a problem, last month our track was getting slicker and slicker. We had just purchased a new drum of VHT from an OK. distributor, After 3 weeks of trying to find out what was wrong we sent a sample of the VHT in to be tested, we also at the request of PJ. Harvey sent him a sample to test. The VHT is contaminated with diesel. Mr. Harvey called me at 12:45 pm. on 6/19/13 and said yes the VHT has diesel in it. He continued to say his competitors was sabotaging his product.

If a track is having problems with a traction compound that we all know has worked forever, the first place to look would either be in contamination of any cutting agent (i.e., toplube in the alcohol... heard of that happening on several occasions), or contamination of the traction compound itself. There is nothing inherently wrong with PJ1/VHT, and it has been proven time and time again to be the best product out there.

John Duzac · 06-22-2013, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael Beard

As a number of others have responded to this kind of post in the past, PJ1 is VHT. They are the same product. PJ1 is the parent company.

I received an e-mail last week from a track out west, which stated:

If a track is having problems with a traction compound that we all know has worked forever, the first place to look would either be in contamination of any cutting agent (i.e., toplube in the alcohol... heard of that happening on several occasions), or contamination of the traction compound itself. There is nothing inherently wrong with PJ1/VHT, and it has been proven time and time again to be the best product out there.

Sure Michael, it's the same product. They just changed the name. Well, they also changed the sticky surface we are use to as well! I have also researched everything and know they claim to have just changed the name of VHT to PJ1. They also claim it is the same product and everyone must be cutting the cpompund too much...It's everyone's fault but PJ1. I just hope they find a solution. I hate to think that I will have to put another 100 pounds in the trunk to hook up.

Jeff Jewell · 06-22-2013, 11:09 AM

Joe,

I've run at E-Town on Wednesday nights occasionally and Sundays regularly for the past couple of years. Track has been pretty good this year. Wednesday can get a little spotty later in the evening due to the street cars, but that's mostly due lack of time to continually prep with the 10:00 pm curfew. Don't think of the traction problems of the national as a regular occurrence.

You know my car (a footbrake Super Stocker for those of you that don't). I've been consistently going 1.30 - 1.32 in 60 off the footbrake with radials with no problems. It was nearly 90 degrees last Sunday and the car went 1.31 in 60 on the last pass late in the afternoon on cords...

Hope this helps.

joe176 · 06-22-2013, 10:18 PM

Thanks for the input guys... I hate wasting runs for nothing... Used to go to Island in the past .... That place was good every time I tested there

06-22-2013, 07:48 AM	#1
joe176 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NY Posts: 601 Likes: 36 Liked 41 Times in 9 Posts	E Town Track Prep Any ideas on the track prep Wednesday nights .... Looking to test ... Don't wanna waste my time if I can't hit it hard in 60'..... Atco was disappointing on Father's Day ... Good for a little while then was gone for the rest of the day as nothing was done to maintain it __________________ Joe Franco SS176

06-22-2013, 08:39 AM	#2
Signman Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lower Slower Delaware Posts: 535 Likes: 22 Liked 269 Times in 99 Posts	Re: E Town Track Prep xx __________________ Frank Ferrucci I/SA 1271 "Be Thankful for the Gifts You are Given" Last edited by Signman; 06-22-2013 at 04:50 PM.

06-22-2013, 09:08 AM	#3
1347 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Monroe Twp NJ Posts: 500 Likes: 1,028 Liked 988 Times in 272 Posts	Re: E Town Track Prep Im not sure if the Wednesday night traction problem is 100% true, they have been running a 500 dollar race and there are a lot of 9 and 10 second cars running. Ficacci was there last week, Linke runs those nights, so you might want to talk to a couple people who have run down there this year, I ran 9 or 10 of those races last year, and traction wasn't a problem. just my 2 cents Duane

06-22-2013, 09:23 AM	#4
Todd Hoven Guest Posts: n/a	Re: E Town Track Prep The gamblers program at Etown works well for a test and tune. I was there last Wednesday and made 4 runs before 8:30, winning one round of the gamblers. It's a good program and I plan to go as often as I can to test and practice. They spray the track before the gambler cars go out each time. It's a good deal and worth a try at least once. Rules are no delay boxes or throttle stops, everything else goes. The Sunday's take all day, and racing dragsters and delayboxes are not fun. If your car doesn't hook on Wednesday night, you better work on it. Last edited by Todd Hoven; 06-22-2013 at 09:26 AM.

06-22-2013, 09:45 AM	#5
John Duzac Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Covington, La Posts: 311 Likes: 63 Liked 83 Times in 20 Posts	Re: E Town Track Prep I cannot say much about how they prep the track at E Town, but if they are using PJ1 for traction on compound, chances are the starting line will not be very good. When track temp. gets to 95 to a 100 degrees things get really bad. Everyone has been having trouble with traction issues this year, especially stick cars. Time was, when you would walk out on the starting line, it would pull your shoes off. That was when VHT was being used. Anyway it adds up, VHT or PJ1, something has changed and it shows on your 60 foot time and on your shoes. They say PJ1 is the same as VHT, only costing less money per drum. Just walk out on the starting line and see for yourself if your shoes stick to the track. You will be in for a surprise. Something's different and I know VHT worked and they changed the name of the product to PJ1 and now many people are having trouble hooking up. __________________ John Duzac D/S 4448 STK

06-22-2013, 09:49 AM	#6
Bob Hochrun Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 34 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: E Town Track Prep Joe. E town Wednesday night good if you get ur runs in before 730. When I go to test i try to make first pass by 615 and second before 730. After that its it or miss with all the front wheel cars .

06-22-2013, 11:09 AM	#9
Jeff Jewell Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Bangor, PA Posts: 182 Likes: 41 Liked 171 Times in 36 Posts	Re: E Town Track Prep Joe, I've run at E-Town on Wednesday nights occasionally and Sundays regularly for the past couple of years. Track has been pretty good this year. Wednesday can get a little spotty later in the evening due to the street cars, but that's mostly due lack of time to continually prep with the 10:00 pm curfew. Don't think of the traction problems of the national as a regular occurrence. You know my car (a footbrake Super Stocker for those of you that don't). I've been consistently going 1.30 - 1.32 in 60 off the footbrake with radials with no problems. It was nearly 90 degrees last Sunday and the car went 1.31 in 60 on the last pass late in the afternoon on cords... Hope this helps.

06-22-2013, 10:18 PM	#10
joe176 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NY Posts: 601 Likes: 36 Liked 41 Times in 9 Posts	Re: E Town Track Prep Thanks for the input guys... I hate wasting runs for nothing... Used to go to Island in the past .... That place was good every time I tested there __________________ Joe Franco SS176