End of Stock and SuperStock Racing??

Dick Butler · 06-22-2013, 11:02 AM

If we each decide S or SS is "MY" racing the end is nearer than thought. Selfish wishes, hp demands, class demands and ...... will keep it a Participant sport. It is destined for divisional events only or continued filler at Nationals.
I see Stk and SS as OUR or everyones place to comment and move forward.
No Everyone will not be happy, everyone might not get their favorite $1000 car factored to run a national event. Everyone might not be able to afford Stk or SS. We know that today.
If the majority wish to move it back towards its beginning as a Spectator appeal, Sponsor appeal and possible more enjoyment for Winning class( defined as beating 4 or 5 cars for class) then so be it. That can happen.
Want to run at an empty track, two days before spectators show up, no sponsor money unless you buy a cam a year, then vote that way.

Billy Nees · 06-23-2013, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dick Butler

If we each decide S or SS is "MY" racing the end is nearer than thought. Selfish wishes, hp demands, class demands and ...... will keep it a Participant sport.

Dick, I'm going to guess that your comment is a slap at my remark that I always considered this "My Sport". We are all pretty much a bunch of selfish, spoiled brats! Let's face it, we're not cureing cancer or ending world hunger here!
And it is "My Sport". It may be NHRAs to own but I can still take from it what I will and make it mine. Like or not, I accept their rules and play by their rules. When I decide that I no longer like playing by their rules, I'll either quit or start the "Billy Hot Rod Assn.".

Robert Swartz · 06-23-2013, 10:30 AM

I sat here at the breakfast table and read this whole thread. I hope Stock/SuperStock racing doesn't seek to exist in the near future.

Right now, my attempts to join the fraternity keep running into roadblocks. My FWD car sits in limbo in the driveway, stripped of the few parts we added to it, now merely an object that needs moved from time to time to be mowed under. It was originally my step sons car, now subject to a Federal court case. It's fate yet to be determined. I want to personally thank Ron Seibenak, Dennis Roberts and Billy Nees for advise and help with that car.

My other car, the 79 Firebird, still sets in its corner of the garage. Due to lack of time or lack of money, it's just not getting worked on. I have most of the pieces to make the chassis a roller. Have of a lot ot the parts to build a good basic IHRA crate engine. Blame myself for apathy, just can't personally get motivated enough to start putting it altogether. Want give a personal thank you to Alex and his son Tony Dysenko for advise and getting me a few parts to at least get this thing to a point I can refer to it as a car. Also a shout out to Bruce Parsons, whom went out of his way to build me a set of heads to replace a set that were stolen from my shop. Just hope we get to use them someday.

Meanwhile, my long time friend and racing partner, Tod Lane and I continue to work on our ancient old 66 Chevy II bracket car. Just want to get this car redone. Just too many projects and lack of focus.

I'm somewhat established in life. For someone in their 20's or 30's, even with a good income. All hobbies are expensive, in their own ways. Racing, it isn't just having a car. You need to have a place to store and work on it. Both a vehicle and a trailer to transport it. As well as both tools and support equipment to work on it. I agree with what was said here, young people want to go fast and race heads up. I ran into a young guy I used to work with at a bracket race last summer. He wanted to know why were we running this slow "pos" and not running our Chevy II? He was smart enough to understand what we had done with the car. Just couldn't fathom why or how anyone could get excited running a slow race car.

The days of building a car in the driveway are far behind us. Around here, in many places if you live in town, they won't let you have a vehicle in the driveway that isn't plated. Now, they won't in many cases let you park a trailer, RV or boat in your driveway. With the way all state and local Govt's are seeking revenue. How long before you have to have some kind of personal CDL just to pull a trailer?

Ok enough ranting and whining. Enough of a long winded post, just hope it isn't a lot of useless drivel. To those that keep this alive, I applaud you. Just hope, one day, I show back up in the staging lanes, WITH a car.

06-22-2013, 11:02 AM	#1
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: End of Stock and SuperStock Racing?? If we each decide S or SS is "MY" racing the end is nearer than thought. Selfish wishes, hp demands, class demands and ...... will keep it a Participant sport. It is destined for divisional events only or continued filler at Nationals. I see Stk and SS as OUR or everyones place to comment and move forward. No Everyone will not be happy, everyone might not get their favorite $1000 car factored to run a national event. Everyone might not be able to afford Stk or SS. We know that today. If the majority wish to move it back towards its beginning as a Spectator appeal, Sponsor appeal and possible more enjoyment for Winning class( defined as beating 4 or 5 cars for class) then so be it. That can happen. Want to run at an empty track, two days before spectators show up, no sponsor money unless you buy a cam a year, then vote that way.

06-23-2013, 10:30 AM	#3
Robert Swartz Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Nineveh, Indiana Posts: 512 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: End of Stock and SuperStock Racing?? I sat here at the breakfast table and read this whole thread. I hope Stock/SuperStock racing doesn't seek to exist in the near future. Right now, my attempts to join the fraternity keep running into roadblocks. My FWD car sits in limbo in the driveway, stripped of the few parts we added to it, now merely an object that needs moved from time to time to be mowed under. It was originally my step sons car, now subject to a Federal court case. It's fate yet to be determined. I want to personally thank Ron Seibenak, Dennis Roberts and Billy Nees for advise and help with that car. My other car, the 79 Firebird, still sets in its corner of the garage. Due to lack of time or lack of money, it's just not getting worked on. I have most of the pieces to make the chassis a roller. Have of a lot ot the parts to build a good basic IHRA crate engine. Blame myself for apathy, just can't personally get motivated enough to start putting it altogether. Want give a personal thank you to Alex and his son Tony Dysenko for advise and getting me a few parts to at least get this thing to a point I can refer to it as a car. Also a shout out to Bruce Parsons, whom went out of his way to build me a set of heads to replace a set that were stolen from my shop. Just hope we get to use them someday. Meanwhile, my long time friend and racing partner, Tod Lane and I continue to work on our ancient old 66 Chevy II bracket car. Just want to get this car redone. Just too many projects and lack of focus. I'm somewhat established in life. For someone in their 20's or 30's, even with a good income. All hobbies are expensive, in their own ways. Racing, it isn't just having a car. You need to have a place to store and work on it. Both a vehicle and a trailer to transport it. As well as both tools and support equipment to work on it. I agree with what was said here, young people want to go fast and race heads up. I ran into a young guy I used to work with at a bracket race last summer. He wanted to know why were we running this slow "pos" and not running our Chevy II? He was smart enough to understand what we had done with the car. Just couldn't fathom why or how anyone could get excited running a slow race car. The days of building a car in the driveway are far behind us. Around here, in many places if you live in town, they won't let you have a vehicle in the driveway that isn't plated. Now, they won't in many cases let you park a trailer, RV or boat in your driveway. With the way all state and local Govt's are seeking revenue. How long before you have to have some kind of personal CDL just to pull a trailer? Ok enough ranting and whining. Enough of a long winded post, just hope it isn't a lot of useless drivel. To those that keep this alive, I applaud you. Just hope, one day, I show back up in the staging lanes, WITH a car. __________________ Robert Swartz - Swartz & Lane 66 Chevy II Pro 95 Achieva EF/SA, 78 Mustang II U/SA (work in progress) #354 stock Last edited by Robert Swartz; 06-23-2013 at 03:17 PM.