End of Stock and SuperStock Racing??

boostedf22c · 06-23-2013, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by HR9121

I didn't realize nitrous and turbos had got so expensive.

Cause all you have to do is bolt on nitrous or a turbo and you are immediately a front runner in 275 or 10.5 classes....haha.

And a nice built turbo system will easily be over $10,000 once you figure single or twin turbo, turbo manifold(s), waste gate(s), blow off valves(s), downpipe(s), waste gate dump tubes, intercooler piping, couplers, clamps, intercooler, water tank, pumps, lines and fitting if it's air-to-water, etc. Add that on top of a motor that can easily trump the cost of a competitive stock or super stock motor and do the math.

Sean Marconette · 06-23-2013, 10:28 AM

A different spin on this topic: Racer participation this weekend

Cordova Divisional: 54 entries in stock, 31 entries in SS

Tulsa Divisional: 40 entries in stock, 37 entries in SS

Epping National: 68 entries in stock, 45 entries in SS

Bowling Green Combo Race, 54 entries

To me it sure looks like a lot of participation this weekend. Tulsa would be at 41 in stock, had I been a little bit more prepared.

Congratulations to all participants and winners this weekend.

Sean

Michael Beard · 06-23-2013, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean Marconette

A different spin on this topic: Racer participation this weekend

Cordova Divisional: 54 entries in stock, 31 entries in SS

Tulsa Divisional: 40 entries in stock, 37 entries in SS

Epping National: 68 entries in stock, 45 entries in SS

Bowling Green Combo Race, 54 entries

Edgewater Buckeye S/SS Series: 31 entries (1 broke)

Back to "no new blood"... Mark Chaney's daughter gets her first crack in his GT/EA today at Tri-State, John Frech's son was driving yesterday, there's Jake Magee, Zac Ross, Brad Ross, the Darroch brothers... and that's just folks that run the Buckeye series.

Rat Raceway · 06-23-2013, 12:28 PM

New Blood...

I have been reading here for a bit over a year now. My first impression of S/SS from here (classracer.com) was... (honest opinion) Its a good old boys club that wants nothing to do with new racers or helping them. They are proud of it too.

I have no family or friends that have ever been into racing. Everything I know is self taught.

After my first two races in the real world! I have a totaly different outlook on class racers.

The drivers I meet were super friendly and fun to be around. Nothing like what I had prepared myself for.

I'm 100% hooked and want to do nothing else but improve my program and make my the car better. If I wade through the nasty crap from the folks that just want to be nasty there is lots of valuable info here.

There is new blood in your sport and will grow more. IMO your not seeing more people here because this is a ruff house! I see guys saying Yellow Bullet is bad, I have seen just as much mud slinging if not more on here! Most people here are not afride to tell it how it is and do it under there real name. Over there they talk ***** but you have no clue who it is and so it's no big deal.

I will continue to read and take in as much "GOOD" info as I can here. I'm also working on two other guys I know to start racing Class!

I don't see the end just a small change in the way you keep attracting new racers.

View from a rookie!

HR9121 · 06-23-2013, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by boostedf22c

Cause all you have to do is bolt on nitrous or a turbo and you are immediately a front runner in 275 or 10.5 classes....haha.

And a nice built turbo system will easily be over $10,000 once you figure single or twin turbo, turbo manifold(s), waste gate(s), blow off valves(s), downpipe(s), waste gate dump tubes, intercooler piping, couplers, clamps, intercooler, water tank, pumps, lines and fitting if it's air-to-water, etc. Add that on top of a motor that can easily trump the cost of a competitive stock or super stock motor and do the math.

Carey I do realize how much it cost was just getting a shot in at some of our less disrespectful members who seem to have all the answers lately about every topic posted. I actually have a friend who runs 275 so I know what's involved. I have an appreciation of all cars and types of racing especially the crazy fast ones like yours. Hope I get to see it in person in the near future.

Nathan Stinson · 06-23-2013, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by boostedf22c

Cause all you have to do is bolt on nitrous or a turbo and you are immediately a front runner in 275 or 10.5 classes....haha.

And a nice built turbo system will easily be over $10,000 once you figure single or twin turbo, turbo manifold(s), waste gate(s), blow off valves(s), downpipe(s), waste gate dump tubes, intercooler piping, couplers, clamps, intercooler, water tank, pumps, lines and fitting if it's air-to-water, etc. Add that on top of a motor that can easily trump the cost of a competitive stock or super stock motor and do the math.

Thanks for posting this Carey. I was going to post in response to James but I didn't want to disrespect him. Funny how some can be sarcastic and smart to others but it is a one way street if you give it back. I am currently switching to a turbo setup and it is very costly even doing all the piping fabrication myself.

HR9121 · 06-23-2013, 01:54 PM

Nathan don't get your panties in a wad. I'm not disrespecting anyone, as I said before I respect all racing and racers its all expensive and should be enjoyable. I was just getting in a little light hearted jab in there but not serious about it, as a matter of fact I think all this crap up here is ridiculous but when you jump into the conversation you should be careful how you word things. I'm sure you are pretty cool guy but when I read some of the post by you and others they come across with a bit of sarcasm, not to be confused with one person up here who seems to know everything. It's just a matter of how things are worded. You may have had all good intentions but you came into the conversation at a time when many up here are fed up with one individual so you probably caught some backlash from that. Good luck with your turbo set up and despite my earlier post I do know how expensive they are.

Jeff Lee · 06-24-2013, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by HR9121

Nathan don't get your panties in a wad. I'm not disrespecting anyone, as I said before I respect all racing and racers its all expensive and should be enjoyable. I was just getting in a little light hearted jab in there but not serious about it, as a matter of fact I think all this crap up here is ridiculous but when you jump into the conversation you should be careful how you word things. I'm sure you are pretty cool guy but when I read some of the post by you and others they come across with a bit of sarcasm, not to be confused with one person up here who seems to know everything. It's just a matter of how things are worded. You may have had all good intentions but you came into the conversation at a time when many up here are fed up with one individual so you probably caught some backlash from that. Good luck with your turbo set up and despite my earlier post I do know how expensive they are.

Maybe not a direct response but a general thought; If all involved here on this discussion were one-on-one by phone or face, or even hanging out in a trailer together as a group, everybody would get their point across and everybody would get along just fine.
The crappy thing about the internet (and it's a long list), is emotions, inflictions of the voice, body language, etc., just doesn't make it across the screen, no matter how many LOL's you throw out there. Heck, I was talking to an older gentleman (customer) about this recently and he had it nailed when he said not only the keyboard has drastically changed our way of communication as a society but so has the cell phone. Think about it. When two people are on a land line, you can have a conversation in "real time" and there isn't that .002 second delay that encourages you not to interrupt at all; it seems you are waiting for the other party to finish all the time.

Don Kennedy · 06-24-2013, 02:06 AM

I always thought when I made up my mind to race in 1963 that it would fun to Race a Class Car and have always ran a Class car since the very beginning and see no reason to change. I enjoyed the racing a lot and at that time racing was just that . About the Early 70s I stated to realize Just what was going on with these Stock and Super Stock Racers. I then really started to enjoy racing even more.

It is all about Attitude, Atmosphere, Family, and Compassion: I then realized that the Stock and Super Stock Racers have” Something Very Special”.

The Racers are the Movers and Shakers of their world. They make Major Decisions in their Community, their Business, their Churches, and the Company they worked for. They have the uncanny ability to “See The Whole Picture” I then knew what this whole deal was about. They are all very positive about life. They also have this same aggressive and positive attitude in Racing.
They are very successful in their world and have a choice to what class they can run. But will not change, as this is their challenge.

The Class racers are very Family oriented. They treat just about everyone equal at the Drag Strip from the youngest person to the oldest person, with unity in racing. Heck no wonder the children of Drag Racers have turned out successful as the kids were treated with high esteem from the very beginning and know how to have discipline in their lives.. These racers were able to communicate to all, their high standards, family values, and most important their integrity to others in a way that is awesome. The fact that their whole families are devoted to adhering to a set of rules, discipline is there. The fact that their families are willing to sacrifice for one goal is amazing. . These Friends that a racer develops at a race track is like no other sport, as these are friends who would support each other for ever, but on “The Line” they are going to rip you apart and then if they lose afterwards they will help that racer for the next round. Amazing isn’t it.

Compassion like no other is abound. Most of the racers are very compassionate about the Stock and Super Stock Class. Most of the racers eat, drink, dream, and think about how to make their car go faster and quicker every day within the rules. They don’t race for profit. They race with compassion. They are very disciplined and believe in rules. They are honest and have a high standard to adhere to. When they think a rule is out of line they will react with passion. They will move in a professional fashion to change the rule. They want to run in a” Performance Oriented Class” As Stock and Super Stock Racing is Their Life. These racers will look you straight in the Eye and go deep into your mind and say well done ,with out saying a word and the person who understands this will acknowledge the inner satisfaction of the silent compliment of you won this time but be ready next time.

One of the most Amazing things in Life about these Stock and Super Stock racers is that they will never quit and the last one standing will be the Winner or is that true?
In My opinion the Stock and Super Stock Racers and their Families are all winners for ever and when it is all over someone will say “Well Done Stock And Super Stock Racers You are all Winners” and you have made a difference in Life
I wrote this a "few" years ago and still believe it applies now ,just my opinion
Don

Carl Weisinger · 06-24-2013, 03:28 AM

Going to Piedmont, NC this weekend for a IHRA Pro-Am event. I see they are having a
Stock/Super-Stock Combo race on Saturday of the event,.......... with buy-backs.

Buy backs were started in the first place at a bracket race up north. It was a suggestion made as a way to meet a minimum number of entries for a full pay out. The car count at
the bracket race wasn't very good. Hence, buy backs. See the similarity?

I suggest we race all the regional Stock/Super-Stock events we can, if for no other
reason than to keep ourselves interested. Anybody too good to hit a few "no box" E.T.
races also?

Hope everyone has a safe week.

06-23-2013, 10:28 AM	#2
Sean Marconette Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 977 Likes: 796 Liked 275 Times in 76 Posts	Re: End of Stock and SuperStock Racing?? A different spin on this topic: Racer participation this weekend Cordova Divisional: 54 entries in stock, 31 entries in SS Tulsa Divisional: 40 entries in stock, 37 entries in SS Epping National: 68 entries in stock, 45 entries in SS Bowling Green Combo Race, 54 entries To me it sure looks like a lot of participation this weekend. Tulsa would be at 41 in stock, had I been a little bit more prepared. Congratulations to all participants and winners this weekend. Sean __________________ Sean Marconette 84 Mustang 5060 SS/N

06-23-2013, 12:28 PM	#4
Rat Raceway Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Denver Co Posts: 408 Likes: 282 Liked 35 Times in 17 Posts	Re: End of Stock and SuperStock Racing?? New Blood... I have been reading here for a bit over a year now. My first impression of S/SS from here (classracer.com) was... (honest opinion) Its a good old boys club that wants nothing to do with new racers or helping them. They are proud of it too. I have no family or friends that have ever been into racing. Everything I know is self taught. After my first two races in the real world! I have a totaly different outlook on class racers. The drivers I meet were super friendly and fun to be around. Nothing like what I had prepared myself for. I'm 100% hooked and want to do nothing else but improve my program and make my the car better. If I wade through the nasty crap from the folks that just want to be nasty there is lots of valuable info here. There is new blood in your sport and will grow more. IMO your not seeing more people here because this is a ruff house! I see guys saying Yellow Bullet is bad, I have seen just as much mud slinging if not more on here! Most people here are not afride to tell it how it is and do it under there real name. Over there they talk ***** but you have no clue who it is and so it's no big deal. I will continue to read and take in as much "GOOD" info as I can here. I'm also working on two other guys I know to start racing Class! I don't see the end just a small change in the way you keep attracting new racers. View from a rookie! __________________ Ross Gregory 5133 Stock,Super Stock 53 Top Dragster

06-23-2013, 01:54 PM	#7
HR9121 Live Reporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New Bern, NC Posts: 3,467 Likes: 146 Liked 3,363 Times in 731 Posts	Re: End of Stock and SuperStock Racing?? Nathan don't get your panties in a wad. I'm not disrespecting anyone, as I said before I respect all racing and racers its all expensive and should be enjoyable. I was just getting in a little light hearted jab in there but not serious about it, as a matter of fact I think all this crap up here is ridiculous but when you jump into the conversation you should be careful how you word things. I'm sure you are pretty cool guy but when I read some of the post by you and others they come across with a bit of sarcasm, not to be confused with one person up here who seems to know everything. It's just a matter of how things are worded. You may have had all good intentions but you came into the conversation at a time when many up here are fed up with one individual so you probably caught some backlash from that. Good luck with your turbo set up and despite my earlier post I do know how expensive they are. __________________ James Williamson W200 J/SA. SS/JA

06-24-2013, 02:06 AM	#9
Don Kennedy VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Near Portland TN Posts: 1,590 Likes: 3,876 Liked 902 Times in 237 Posts	Re: End of Stock and SuperStock Racing?? I always thought when I made up my mind to race in 1963 that it would fun to Race a Class Car and have always ran a Class car since the very beginning and see no reason to change. I enjoyed the racing a lot and at that time racing was just that . About the Early 70s I stated to realize Just what was going on with these Stock and Super Stock Racers. I then really started to enjoy racing even more. It is all about Attitude, Atmosphere, Family, and Compassion: I then realized that the Stock and Super Stock Racers have” Something Very Special”. The Racers are the Movers and Shakers of their world. They make Major Decisions in their Community, their Business, their Churches, and the Company they worked for. They have the uncanny ability to “See The Whole Picture” I then knew what this whole deal was about. They are all very positive about life. They also have this same aggressive and positive attitude in Racing. They are very successful in their world and have a choice to what class they can run. But will not change, as this is their challenge. The Class racers are very Family oriented. They treat just about everyone equal at the Drag Strip from the youngest person to the oldest person, with unity in racing. Heck no wonder the children of Drag Racers have turned out successful as the kids were treated with high esteem from the very beginning and know how to have discipline in their lives.. These racers were able to communicate to all, their high standards, family values, and most important their integrity to others in a way that is awesome. The fact that their whole families are devoted to adhering to a set of rules, discipline is there. The fact that their families are willing to sacrifice for one goal is amazing. . These Friends that a racer develops at a race track is like no other sport, as these are friends who would support each other for ever, but on “The Line” they are going to rip you apart and then if they lose afterwards they will help that racer for the next round. Amazing isn’t it. Compassion like no other is abound. Most of the racers are very compassionate about the Stock and Super Stock Class. Most of the racers eat, drink, dream, and think about how to make their car go faster and quicker every day within the rules. They don’t race for profit. They race with compassion. They are very disciplined and believe in rules. They are honest and have a high standard to adhere to. When they think a rule is out of line they will react with passion. They will move in a professional fashion to change the rule. They want to run in a” Performance Oriented Class” As Stock and Super Stock Racing is Their Life. These racers will look you straight in the Eye and go deep into your mind and say well done ,with out saying a word and the person who understands this will acknowledge the inner satisfaction of the silent compliment of you won this time but be ready next time. One of the most Amazing things in Life about these Stock and Super Stock racers is that they will never quit and the last one standing will be the Winner or is that true? In My opinion the Stock and Super Stock Racers and their Families are all winners for ever and when it is all over someone will say “Well Done Stock And Super Stock Racers You are all Winners” and you have made a difference in Life I wrote this a "few" years ago and still believe it applies now ,just my opinion Don __________________ Don Kennedy 7701 SS

06-24-2013, 03:28 AM	#10
Carl Weisinger Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 98 Likes: 5 Liked 12 Times in 5 Posts	Re: End of Stock and SuperStock Racing?? Going to Piedmont, NC this weekend for a IHRA Pro-Am event. I see they are having a Stock/Super-Stock Combo race on Saturday of the event,.......... with buy-backs. Buy backs were started in the first place at a bracket race up north. It was a suggestion made as a way to meet a minimum number of entries for a full pay out. The car count at the bracket race wasn't very good. Hence, buy backs. See the similarity? I suggest we race all the regional Stock/Super-Stock events we can, if for no other reason than to keep ourselves interested. Anybody too good to hit a few "no box" E.T. races also? Hope everyone has a safe week.