Indy 2013

Ed Wright · 08-02-2013, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Charley Downing

I think it would be more like 10-12hp on Monday.

Still take a long time to get them on an equal basis with everybody else. Then they would have to go to work testing headers, cams, intake manifolds and converters like the rest of us.

Charley Downing · 08-02-2013, 04:27 PM

Yea your right Larry and those guys at engines inc don't ever test anything. They just slapped some bone stock engine together and ran -1.50. It's that easy

Ed you are forgetting that there are no where near the gains with the new stuff. My heads for example are killer to start we have slowed down two sets trying to improve them. All factory heads way better then they were 20 years ago

Ed Wright · 08-02-2013, 05:02 PM

Besides the heads, you would have to be one dumb sucker to look at the specs for, an example, the LT1 and the 360" DP, and say "Yeah, those would be the same hp."
Gotta wonder about the guy at NHRA that accepted that. Give me the same compression, valve sizes, port volumes, and throttle body and give me the ten more cubic inches. Oh, and either take back my four hp, or give them four so we would weigh the same. Make us both 275, or 279. I would happily run them for class or heads up every day. Get beat and I would know I needed to work harder, not know I just got screwed.

At least if I stay home, the LT1 guys that have been badgering me to slow my car down more, and not run too fast in class at Indy will be happy.

Greg Hill · 08-02-2013, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright

Besides the heads, you would have to be one dumb sucker to look at the specs for, an example, the LT1 and the 360" DP, and say "Yeah, those would be the same hp."
Gotta wonder about the guy at NHRA that accepted that. Give me the same compression, valve sizes, port volumes, and throttle body and give me the ten more cubic inches. Oh, and either take back my four hp, or give them four so we would weigh the same. Make us both 275, or 279. I would happily run them for class or heads up every day. Get beat and I would know I needed to work harder, not know I just got screwed.

At least if I stay home, the LT1 guys that have been badgering me to slow my car down more, and not run too fast in class at Indy will be happy.

Ed, how about a set of fast burn heads and a 1000cfm throttle body?

Ed Wright · 08-02-2013, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg Hill

Ed, how about a set of fast burn heads and a 1000cfm throttle body?

Big help. LOL

Andrew Hill · 08-02-2013, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Charley Downing

Ed you are forgetting that there are no where near the gains with the new stuff. My heads for example are killer to start we have slowed down two sets trying to improve them. All factory heads way better then they were 20 years ago

Yeah but the me factory engines have super strict fuel economy and emissions restrictions that the older cars didnt have. Just from tuning, a new car can pick up a lot more HP than an old car. True, there is less to be gained in the cylinder heads because the new ones are so good, but that's not exactly a disadvantage in stock eliminator!

However, I personally think it's possible for an LT1 to win SS/HA, SS/IA, and SS/JA!

Ed Wright · 08-02-2013, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew Hill

Yeah but the me factory engines have super strict fuel economy and emissions restrictions that the older cars didnt have. Just from tuning, a new at can pick up a lot more HP than an old car. True, there is less to be gained in the cylinder heads because the new ones are so good, but that's not exactly a disadvantage in stock eliminator!

However, I personally think it's possible for an LT1 to win SS/HA, SS/IA, and SS/JA!

I agree about H, have to see Stewart lose I to believe it, I don't know how fast those DPs in J are. Even if they are slow (can't imagine how you could make one slow) an LT1 would have to get by Ronnie Terrell. That little car is extremely dangerous for a legit car.

Michael Beard · 08-02-2013, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright

I agree about H, have to see Stewart lose I to believe it, I don't know how fast those DPs in J are.

Prolly 9.70's, based on what some other 5.9's have gone and factoring in the weight difference.

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Even if they are slow (can't imagine how you could make one slow)

Hey, leave me out of this! ;-) Rule #1, don't spend any money.

Ed Carpenter · 08-02-2013, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Beard

Prolly 9.70's, based on what some other 5.9's have gone and factoring in the weight difference.

Hey, leave me out of this! ;-) Rule #1, don't spend any money.

Ed's car is bad fast but I don't think he can get into the 70's. If im wrong I'll get a text soon telling me so. LOL

Jeff Teuton · 08-02-2013, 08:30 PM

Charlie Bob, yall farmers huh? How many acres you willing to risk? I gota some oil producing marsh. No cash.

08-02-2013, 04:27 PM	#2
Charley Downing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 761 Likes: 16 Liked 633 Times in 88 Posts	Re: Indy 2013 Yea your right Larry and those guys at engines inc don't ever test anything. They just slapped some bone stock engine together and ran -1.50. It's that easy Ed you are forgetting that there are no where near the gains with the new stuff. My heads for example are killer to start we have slowed down two sets trying to improve them. All factory heads way better then they were 20 years ago __________________ Charley Downing 3548 STK Last edited by Charley Downing; 08-02-2013 at 04:39 PM.

08-02-2013, 05:02 PM	#3
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Indy 2013 Besides the heads, you would have to be one dumb sucker to look at the specs for, an example, the LT1 and the 360" DP, and say "Yeah, those would be the same hp." Gotta wonder about the guy at NHRA that accepted that. Give me the same compression, valve sizes, port volumes, and throttle body and give me the ten more cubic inches. Oh, and either take back my four hp, or give them four so we would weigh the same. Make us both 275, or 279. I would happily run them for class or heads up every day. Get beat and I would know I needed to work harder, not know I just got screwed. At least if I stay home, the LT1 guys that have been badgering me to slow my car down more, and not run too fast in class at Indy will be happy. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

08-02-2013, 08:30 PM	#10
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	Re: Indy 2013 Charlie Bob, yall farmers huh? How many acres you willing to risk? I gota some oil producing marsh. No cash. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK