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Old 08-28-2013, 10:49 PM   #1
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$100,000 stockers, $150,000 super stockers, motorhomes,. toterhomes, stacker trailers and golf carts fill the grounds of every divisional and national event to race for peanuts and you're crying about a new safety rule and spending $200.

Too funny!
Ed, there are a few things you are not considering and it is have nothing to do that NHRA is the regulator. It has to do with the premise in which this rule was implemented.

First, I believe there is not a solid case for the requirement to have a tether for the collectors.

If NHRA were to do a Weibull analysis, taking into consideration the number of events in which a collector came off from the header assembly and compared to the number of cars in competition and the number of runs, the low percentage of events would not justify or validate such requirement or rule change.

Second, I priced the cost of the parts offered and the labor required. Even when you buy the best parts in bulk, they are still making a considerable profit.

You may bring up the testing and approval of the parts; well, where are the test and acceptance criteria or specifications?

SFI does not have any specifications and NHRA has not published any criteria either. Therefore, it appears the approval is subjective.
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Old 08-28-2013, 10:55 PM   #2
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your opinion and speculation, none of which matter.

Bottomline is collector tethers are required as of 2014 and until someone else comes up with an NHRA accepted solution as well cheaper solution, you will be buying these tethers or welding your collectors.
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Old 08-28-2013, 11:38 PM   #3
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your opinion and speculation, none of which matter.

Bottomline is collector tethers are required as of 2014 and until someone else comes up with an NHRA accepted solution as well cheaper solution, you will be buying these tethers or welding your collectors.

Yes, might be my opinion, but speculation?

Please Mr. Ed...if you are so smart as you claim, please school me on the speculation part.
As I understand the definition of speculation is the forming of a theory or conjecture without sufficient evidence or basis. Other than what stated, anything else is considered a "knee jerk" reaction.
In my profession, I base my decisions on objective evidence, not speculation.
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Old 08-29-2013, 02:16 AM   #4
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your opinion and speculation, none of which matter.

Bottomline is collector tethers are required as of 2014 and until someone else comes up with an NHRA accepted solution as well cheaper solution, you will be buying these tethers or welding your collectors.
Does this ruling not apply across the board; to all levels of NHRA competition? If so, looks like Ed has to spend a few more of his winnings on safety equipment.
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Old 08-29-2013, 02:26 AM   #5
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The constant rubbing of our noses by 1320racer in a pile he see's as Doggy doo; aka "Class Racing" to 1320racer, is an obvious attempt by him to somehow prove he is better than any Class Racer. Yet in trying to display his level of competence, he constantly brings to light his incompetence. He constantly seeks either our approval, yet relishes when he gets somebody on our side to buy into his "your just glorified bracket racers". The old adage, "misery loves company", certainly applies to 1320racer.
Whether capable or not capable of making the commitment in building and competing with a class race car, the bottom line is 1320racer is not a Class Racer. In his world, he see's himself as King. In my world, he's nothing.
Therefore I just wasted a minute of my life...
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Old 08-29-2013, 09:14 AM   #6
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your opinion and speculation, none of which matter.

Bottomline is collector tethers are required as of 2014 and until someone else comes up with an NHRA accepted solution as well cheaper solution, you will be buying these tethers or welding your collectors.
1320 they missed you sunday, and they ask about you at the scales.
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Old 08-29-2013, 09:24 AM   #7
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Ed cant you see we are all getting F.;[..ck..Money isn't the problem . a monkey can make the same product NHRA are forcing down our throat.By the way its about$ 300 plus for my slow azz stocker.. Ed whats the report on Numedia track owner sucker punching the starter..
Being you no it all..Give us the real gossip..
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Old 08-29-2013, 09:39 AM   #8
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I guess my main objection is that I really don't like being screwed when it comes to spending my money. I have tri-y headers that are all individual pipes. How many of these sob's do I have to have? This is a solution to a non existent problem.
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Old 08-29-2013, 09:56 AM   #9
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Ed cant you see we are all getting F.;[..ck..Money isn't the problem . a monkey can make the same product NHRA are forcing down our throat.By the way its about$ 300 plus for my slow azz stocker.. Ed whats the report on Numedia track owner sucker punching the starter..
Being you no it all..Give us the real gossip..
James, there are no victims here, only participants and I have yet to read one post where a racer has stated he is going to invest his time and money to produce another solution, get it approved by the NHRA and sell it cheaper than the current solution.

As for Numidia....1. the starter was NOT sucker punched by the track owner or anyone else. 2. MIke Summers is back and will be the starter at Numidia for as long as a DiMino owns it.
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Old 08-29-2013, 10:18 AM   #10
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Doesn't it state "removeable multi piece collectors"? Exactly what is a multi piece collector? Does this mean a collector with some sort of removeable tube? Really the wording has me a bit confused. My header arrangement requires I have a removeable collector as well as to remove my trans. so welding them is not an option.
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