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Old 09-11-2007, 08:45 PM   #1
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Default Re: Richardson Barone, winner of the U.S. Nationals ? (Redirected. May affect every

Did anyone out there Tivo the finals?
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Old 09-11-2007, 09:41 PM   #2
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Question Re: Richardson Barone, winner of the U.S. Nationals ? (Redirected. May affect every

Looks like the only thing that was distorted was the win light in the wrong lane. Looks like the steve johnson pro stock bike final the other year.
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Old 09-11-2007, 09:54 PM   #3
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Default Re: Richardson Barone, winner of the U.S. Nationals ? (Redirected. May affect every

I have it on TIvo and you can only move it so slow, it is the same as in the photo shown..
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Old 09-12-2007, 04:13 PM   #4
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Default Re: Richardson Barone, winner of the U.S. Nationals ? (Redirected. May affect every

Guys,

Remember, we are really racing 1317.5 feet ( or so, depending on which body style you have) with beams 7 to 8 inches high at the stripe.

The tire starts the clock and the body/facia stops the clock.


??What was the reason for raising the beams at the stripe and when did if officially change?
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Old 09-13-2007, 11:26 AM   #5
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Default Re: Richardson Barone, winner of the U.S. Nationals ? (Redirected. May affect every

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Guys,

Remember, we are really racing 1317.5 feet ( or so, depending on which body style you have) with beams 7 to 8 inches high at the stripe.

The tire starts the clock and the body/facia stops the clock.


??What was the reason for raising the beams at the stripe and when did if officially change?
The change came with the Compulink "Startrac" system upgrade to infrareds, I can't remember the exact reasoning, other than I believe it was to compensate for the change from incandescent photocell receivers placed at 1 1/2" above the surface, also the 60' timer was moved to 61' 4", I think to compensate for the higher downtrack sensors, and keep the "standards" in line in regards to record attempts. It also helped alleviate the problems of anyone having a movable stripe catcher or other bodywork tricks.

Seems this all happened about 2000 or so.....We need Jeff Foster in here to answer this one.
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Old 09-13-2007, 01:50 PM   #6
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Default Re: Richardson Barone, winner of the U.S. Nationals ? (Redirected. May affect every

Thanks Dave.

Thats good info. I would like to know more about that 60' clock spec?

Hello Jeff Foster.......................More info please.
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Old 09-13-2007, 02:27 PM   #7
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Question Re: Richardson Barone, winner of the U.S. Nationals ? (Redirected. May affect every

ok guys... let me know if this is true ???

in a breakout category using front end not tires to break beams is factored into dail in...
if you dont dip your slow... dial it that way and dip and you breakout...correct ???

HOWEVER comp is different... you dont lose if you go to fast, just slap on wrist ??

jack mccarthy

p.s. from beard's pics i think it is obvious... barone's car got screwed.
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Old 09-13-2007, 03:01 PM   #8
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Default Re: Richardson Barone, winner of the U.S. Nationals ? (Redirected. May affect every

Not my pics, just stuff I've found other people post.

Now, from this pics on dragracecentral.com...



The only thing I can figure that could've happened is that the front spoiler went under the beam, and the fender flares went above the beam, so the first thing to trip would be the tire. Even that looks *really* close, but I don't know that it's enough reasonable doubt to overturn the timing system. They've got the finish line beam set at the leading edge of the painted stripe (right side in the pic).
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Old 09-12-2007, 04:20 PM   #9
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Default Re: Richardson Barone, winner of the U.S. Nationals ? (Redirected. May affect every

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This is a good example in my opinion why NHRA should catch up with the rest of the racing world and go with electronic transmitters on each car i.e., NASCAR, F-1, Indy car SCCA and even Go Karts. These little transmitters are relatively cheap, about the size of a pack of cigarettes and project down onto a scoring wire laid in the track. Their accuracy is excellent as seen by the July 4 th. race at Daytona and you could do away with all those ancient photo-reflectors used now. It would also eliminate all the finish line issues with paper blowing across the track, dipping games played by cars with low front spoilers etc. Its a shame someone looses because of 1960?s technology.

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Old 09-12-2007, 04:46 PM   #10
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Default Re: Richardson Barone, winner of the U.S. Nationals ? (Redirected. May affect every

>> with beams 7 to 8 inches high at the stripe.

I believe at least the IHRA spec for the finish line beam (and all incrementals, except for the 60') is 5-5/8". I would assume NHRA is the same, or very close.
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