Stockers....buttons.....check This Out - Page 2

stockracer · 09-12-2007, 12:17 PM

Tommy....GREAT IDEA...I said it a long time ago! And give the stick cars electro-magnet clutch pedals! Bring back deepstaging for the slow cars...That way nobody will bitch!

Mr. Day...I didnt know that buttons had become such a huge issue in the NBRA...Where was your last NHRA race...(Drag race central doesnt show you, nor autoimagery)

Piatek...Stay on your side of the racing community!

Dual rear calipers wont do any good 2-stepin unless your tryin to hold a car a 4500 rpm, and you deffinatly wont want to stab the brakes with dual rear...You still have to hold the brake pedal...And i was to the understanding that the 2-step couldnt be wired to a line-loc, not even a 2 wheel!

Now all this post is missing is Ed! He can screw anything up!

Sincerely,

Stockracer
(No-name, No-name Punk, No-name Basher, Stock-wannabe-racer, Coward, Benchracer, Speedracers brother, and many more to come Im sure)

Jeff Teuton · 09-12-2007, 12:26 PM

I don't think a line lock is legal on rwd cars on the rear axle. Easy enough to check. Items 4 & 5 under "Brakes" in the rule book in Stock Eliminator.

RJ Sledge · 09-12-2007, 12:34 PM

I have been running a "two-step" for over 10 years, but I have to agree with most of the other posting on here, that we should do away with them.

Running a two-step just opens the door for electronic cheating, if the good racers will not be affected by the elimination of the "buttons", then good for them. Why do we need "Buttons" anyway??

I ran a 4 speed car for years and did just as poorly as I have with an automatic, so thats not a reason for "Buttons"

If you want to leave with a "button", put another "S" on your window and run SS.

Or let everyone have a button.......as long as its not connected to anything, that way everyone will be happy.

R J Sledge

jdfpam · 09-12-2007, 01:08 PM

Stockracer,
September 2004 Columbus, Ohio Divisional. My one and only NHRA experience. What is your name and car number, and what was your last race with NHRA?
With our business, I simply can't afford to miss as much work as it takes to run a NHRA schedule. IHRA is much more schedule friendly for me, and I also enjoy it much more than I did at Columbus in 2004.
This issue also concerns IHRA, which will probably follow whatever NHRA does with this. Notice in my post that I put be sure to include your car and membership number. That way, NHRA could see if the input is from their members, which I do belong to also.

By the way Stockracer, please enlighten me as to what NBRA stand for? I can't wait to hear this one.

.500 pro tree and any button? How about Hot Rod or Super Street, they already use that!

I just wonder if NHRA will get the same response to this issue as this board has over the last year. If so, it should be about 80% against buttons, from what I see here. Hope it happens. I can't wait to see the results on the track.

Jeff Day

stockracer · 09-12-2007, 01:25 PM

I think I heard about your Columbus experience...How was tech? Oh and check out the other board...40% keep it the way it is...38% no buttons...22% Only pedal operated switch!

And for the NBRA, Its the greatest racing assoc. ever, No one ever looses a race!

Michael Beard · 09-12-2007, 01:29 PM

>> I didnt know that buttons had become such a huge issue in the NBRA...

Assuming that you're talking about bracket racing, buttons are not an issue. The north and west is all No-Box (transbrake/2step like Super Stock), and the south/southeast is all Footbrake. In Footbrake, somehow, amazingly, we can race without 2-steps, and we even let people deep stage, and it's not a big deal.

>> Piatek...Stay on your side of the racing community!

Huh. I wasn't aware that a community had sides... As Jeff pointed out, a decision by NHRA with input from NHRA racers typically trickles down to IHRA, so the discussion is quite relevant to "those other racers".

SSDiv6 · 09-12-2007, 01:45 PM

This is the only button NHRA should allow...

09-12-2007, 01:55 PM

As far as 2 steps and line locks go,

Couldnt you put the button for the 2 step and the button for the line lock real close together and push them at the same time? Or just take a plate that covers both of them so they activate at the same time?

LouisJeffery · 09-12-2007, 02:23 PM

Jeff Day,
Don't let Stockracer get to you. You know that your position on this subject is valid. Stockracer is a Raving homosexual that chimes in on reasonable conversation to stir up ignorance and hate! Buttons in stock are like penis extensions (real men have NO need)! Louis Jeffery IHRA Stock 3225.

Myron Piatek · 09-12-2007, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stockracer

Piatek...Stay on your side of the racing community!

Sincerely,

Stockracer
(No-name, No-name Punk, No-name Basher, Stock-wannabe-racer, Coward, Benchracer, Speedracers brother, and many more to come Im sure)

NHRA rules are usually adopted by IHRA, and the button controversey is the same "here". We can't vote on the NHRA poll but we can certainly express out views on this forum. So I'm not "staying" anywhere.

Besides, who says I won't try the other "side" some day!

09-12-2007, 12:17 PM	#11
stockracer Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 79 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Stockers....buttons.....check This Out Tommy....GREAT IDEA...I said it a long time ago! And give the stick cars electro-magnet clutch pedals! Bring back deepstaging for the slow cars...That way nobody will bitch! Mr. Day...I didnt know that buttons had become such a huge issue in the NBRA...Where was your last NHRA race...(Drag race central doesnt show you, nor autoimagery) Piatek...Stay on your side of the racing community! Dual rear calipers wont do any good 2-stepin unless your tryin to hold a car a 4500 rpm, and you deffinatly wont want to stab the brakes with dual rear...You still have to hold the brake pedal...And i was to the understanding that the 2-step couldnt be wired to a line-loc, not even a 2 wheel! Now all this post is missing is Ed! He can screw anything up! Sincerely, Stockracer (No-name, No-name Punk, No-name Basher, Stock-wannabe-racer, Coward, Benchracer, Speedracers brother, and many more to come Im sure)

09-12-2007, 12:26 PM	#12
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	Re: Stockers....buttons.....check This Out I don't think a line lock is legal on rwd cars on the rear axle. Easy enough to check. Items 4 & 5 under "Brakes" in the rule book in Stock Eliminator.

09-12-2007, 12:34 PM	#13
RJ Sledge Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 783 Likes: 498 Liked 288 Times in 90 Posts	Re: Stockers....buttons.....check This Out I have been running a "two-step" for over 10 years, but I have to agree with most of the other posting on here, that we should do away with them. Running a two-step just opens the door for electronic cheating, if the good racers will not be affected by the elimination of the "buttons", then good for them. Why do we need "Buttons" anyway?? I ran a 4 speed car for years and did just as poorly as I have with an automatic, so thats not a reason for "Buttons" If you want to leave with a "button", put another "S" on your window and run SS. Or let everyone have a button.......as long as its not connected to anything, that way everyone will be happy. R J Sledge

09-12-2007, 01:08 PM	#14
jdfpam Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 186 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Stockers....buttons.....check This Out Stockracer, September 2004 Columbus, Ohio Divisional. My one and only NHRA experience. What is your name and car number, and what was your last race with NHRA? With our business, I simply can't afford to miss as much work as it takes to run a NHRA schedule. IHRA is much more schedule friendly for me, and I also enjoy it much more than I did at Columbus in 2004. This issue also concerns IHRA, which will probably follow whatever NHRA does with this. Notice in my post that I put be sure to include your car and membership number. That way, NHRA could see if the input is from their members, which I do belong to also. By the way Stockracer, please enlighten me as to what NBRA stand for? I can't wait to hear this one. .500 pro tree and any button? How about Hot Rod or Super Street, they already use that! I just wonder if NHRA will get the same response to this issue as this board has over the last year. If so, it should be about 80% against buttons, from what I see here. Hope it happens. I can't wait to see the results on the track. Jeff Day Last edited by jdfpam; 09-12-2007 at 01:14 PM.

09-12-2007, 01:25 PM	#15
stockracer Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 79 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Stockers....buttons.....check This Out I think I heard about your Columbus experience...How was tech? Oh and check out the other board...40% keep it the way it is...38% no buttons...22% Only pedal operated switch! And for the NBRA, Its the greatest racing assoc. ever, No one ever looses a race!

09-12-2007, 01:29 PM	#16
Michael Beard VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,060 Likes: 0 Liked 13 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Stockers....buttons.....check This Out >> I didnt know that buttons had become such a huge issue in the NBRA... Assuming that you're talking about bracket racing, buttons are not an issue. The north and west is all No-Box (transbrake/2step like Super Stock), and the south/southeast is all Footbrake. In Footbrake, somehow, amazingly, we can race without 2-steps, and we even let people deep stage, and it's not a big deal. >> Piatek...Stay on your side of the racing community! Huh. I wasn't aware that a community had sides... As Jeff pointed out, a decision by NHRA with input from NHRA racers typically trickles down to IHRA, so the discussion is quite relevant to "those other racers". __________________ Michael Beard - NHRA/IHRA 3216 S/SS

09-12-2007, 01:45 PM	#17
SSDiv6 VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Glendale, Arizona Posts: 3,043 Likes: 712 Liked 1,577 Times in 581 Posts	Re: Stockers....buttons.....check This Out *This is the only button NHRA should allow...*

09-12-2007, 01:55 PM	#18
Jeffrey Hefler Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Stockers....buttons.....check This Out As far as 2 steps and line locks go, Couldnt you put the button for the 2 step and the button for the line lock real close together and push them at the same time? Or just take a plate that covers both of them so they activate at the same time?

09-12-2007, 02:23 PM	#19
LouisJeffery Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Detroit Posts: 53 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Stockers....buttons.....check This Out Jeff Day, Don't let Stockracer get to you. You know that your position on this subject is valid. Stockracer is a Raving homosexual that chimes in on reasonable conversation to stir up ignorance and hate! Buttons in stock are like penis extensions (real men have NO need)! Louis Jeffery IHRA Stock 3225.