Jumping in to Stock or SuperStock

doglover44 · 11-13-2013, 07:38 PM

I have heard alot that stick cars are easy to maintain and dont cost much to run as a auto

Ed Wright · 11-13-2013, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by doglover44

I have heard alot that stick cars are easy to maintain and dont cost much to run as a auto

How?

Jeff Lee · 11-14-2013, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by doglover44

I have heard alot that stick cars are easy to maintain and dont cost much to run as a auto

True, as long as you have the right parts and can read and follow instructions. There's a long list of "don't do's" that if eliminated will definetley make for a car as you describe. Best addressed on a new thread.

Ed Wright · 11-14-2013, 03:01 PM

I don't get how they don't cost as much to run as an auto?

Mike Pearson · 11-14-2013, 04:41 PM

I have run both and a stick is much more expensive and labor intensive to race. The fun factor for a stick is way high and makes up for some of that. If you are competitive and want to go rounds you are better off with the auto. There are a select few stick racers that go many rounds but they are fewer and farther between than autos.

Alex Denysenko · 11-14-2013, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Pearson

I have run both and a stick is much more expensive and labor intensive to race. The fun factor for a stick is way high and makes up for some of that. If you are competitive and want to go rounds you are better off with the auto. There are a select few stick racers that go many rounds but they are fewer and farther between than autos.

AMEN BROTHER ME TOO! My 65 SS Mustang was orginally a stick and it about broke me in more ways than one so I gave up and converted it to automatic in the mid 70's slowed down a ton but hard work and more dollars got it all back and then some.

Ed Wright · 11-14-2013, 05:12 PM

Stick cars ARE WAY more fun, if your young enough to enjoy the maint. I typically have my converter & Trans looked at every two years. Can't see how that costs more to run than a stick.

Some stick racers make a lot bigger deal out of what they are doing than is real, but I guess it makes them feel good. LOL

I have a lot more stick passes under my (way too long :-) ) belt than in an auto, it ain't that big a deal to drive one. I made a pass in a friend's stick car a few years ago, one pass. About 5 Hun slower than he ran that day, and according to his play back tach hit the shifts pretty close. Surprised us both. They now sure shift easier than I remembered. I am not in any physical shape, nor any longer interested in the maintenance.

Pvt Parts · 11-15-2013, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright

I don't get how they don't cost as much to run as an auto?

Ed, most don't have a clue. Some do. Just because the car goes down the track, is relatively fast and doesn't break anything doesn't mean the clutch is "right". There's a lot of ET in the bellhousing but it takes takes time, work and a considerable amount of money to find it.... and the testing never stops.

joespanova · 11-16-2013, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Pvt Parts

Ed, most don't have a clue. Some do. Just because the car goes down the track, is relatively fast and doesn't break anything doesn't mean the clutch is "right". There's a lot of ET in the bellhousing but it takes takes time, work and a considerable amount of money to find it.... and the testing never stops.

I think that to find a LOT of ET in the bellhousing tells me you had to be WAY off at some point. There is ET in the bellhousing .

11-16-2013, 10:31 AM

Its almost all in the bell housing, and starting line management

.At least when your trying to make fast runs to win class at Indy and the track temp is 120* or higher and your riding on a 9" wide tire. Forget about if your racing a big block or something with a tremendous amount or tq or rotating weight. You can make a fast run here or there but to be consistently fast requires a constant tune, and non stop paying attention to detail. Its not like a Showtime Grill, " SET IT AND FORGET IT" At least not what I found.

My car car was a decent Spring and Fall car. Was tough in the dog days of summer, especially at Indy. But that is on me, and why I made the switch at the end of this year to an auto.

To be successful with a stick car in all phases heads up, qualifying, bracket racing in all track conditions requires hard work, extra parts, money and know how. One of the most impressive things about Kevin Stubbs, the Zaskowskis, and some of the other sticks guys that escapes my mind at the moment. They are always ready and the cars work no matter what. Something I couldn't master with mine.

11-13-2013, 07:38 PM	#1
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Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Jumping in to Stock or SuperStock I don't get how they don't cost as much to run as an auto? __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

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Mike Pearson VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,453 Likes: 615 Liked 1,938 Times in 583 Posts	Re: Jumping in to Stock or SuperStock I have run both and a stick is much more expensive and labor intensive to race. The fun factor for a stick is way high and makes up for some of that. If you are competitive and want to go rounds you are better off with the auto. There are a select few stick racers that go many rounds but they are fewer and farther between than autos. __________________ Mike Pearson 2485 SS

11-14-2013, 05:12 PM	#7
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Jumping in to Stock or SuperStock Stick cars ARE WAY more fun, if your young enough to enjoy the maint. I typically have my converter & Trans looked at every two years. Can't see how that costs more to run than a stick. Some stick racers make a lot bigger deal out of what they are doing than is real, but I guess it makes them feel good. LOL I have a lot more stick passes under my (way too long :-) ) belt than in an auto, it ain't that big a deal to drive one. I made a pass in a friend's stick car a few years ago, one pass. About 5 Hun slower than he ran that day, and according to his play back tach hit the shifts pretty close. Surprised us both. They now sure shift easier than I remembered. I am not in any physical shape, nor any longer interested in the maintenance. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

11-16-2013, 10:31 AM	#10
Todd Hoven Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Jumping in to Stock or SuperStock Its almost all in the bell housing, and starting line management .At least when your trying to make fast runs to win class at Indy and the track temp is 120* or higher and your riding on a 9" wide tire. Forget about if your racing a big block or something with a tremendous amount or tq or rotating weight. You can make a fast run here or there but to be consistently fast requires a constant tune, and non stop paying attention to detail. Its not like a Showtime Grill, " SET IT AND FORGET IT" At least not what I found. My car car was a decent Spring and Fall car. Was tough in the dog days of summer, especially at Indy. But that is on me, and why I made the switch at the end of this year to an auto. To be successful with a stick car in all phases heads up, qualifying, bracket racing in all track conditions requires hard work, extra parts, money and know how. One of the most impressive things about Kevin Stubbs, the Zaskowskis, and some of the other sticks guys that escapes my mind at the moment. They are always ready and the cars work no matter what. Something I couldn't master with mine.