OLD Modified Corvettes

randy wilson · 12-07-2013, 03:11 PM

I just stated tire size as a spec. Don't really care, other then a 10.5 limit would look awful goofy on most old narrowed SS cars. Those cars are still 1\3rd price of the front wheel conversions. I'd say, no two steps, or chips. No computers, or hook-ups for computers.

randy wilson · 12-07-2013, 03:48 PM

There's a lot of these older cars in the super classes that could be converted. You'd have to relax some of the body restrictions, I think. But, if they have a min. wt. Who cares. They are also cheaper. Also, make all clutch, and shift. We did this by installing a camera to the cage to a car under suspicion, and made them run .02 of their best pass, and .01 in the first 60'

Dick Butler · 12-07-2013, 04:31 PM

Super Gas chassis, Door cars would be a little stretch compared to SS cars but I agree Wt limit would help. ANy age car but NO fwd conversions would really help costs. Guy could chose any cheap chassis he has or could buy. Min Wheel base might be necessary. I agree no computer, maybe recording device. like tach playback ok. 4 barrel class and 2 x 4 class same wt so guys could alternate if they want.
Fewest possible classes to start so everyone shows up TOGETHER, Max 3 classes.
Lots of really interested people in Simple, Cheap, Fun....

Todd Bailey · 12-07-2013, 05:20 PM

Lot of old Super Gas cars to be had. When you talk of cheap and inexpensive, I am thinking stock chassis/suspension. Basically about like an old Super Modified car. I like the stick shift only/no electronics part!! Hell, they added the Top Sportsman stuff why not a class or two like this?

randy wilson · 12-07-2013, 06:13 PM

The year ain't that important to me, but just so everyone knows, an old car will be .05 to ,1 slower then say an F body. I have no problem with a 2 4 barrel class, as long as it's still a cast aluminum intake, and available. As long as there is a min. wt. you'll find there ain't a lot there. We ran every type car in the world over there, and seen nothing except the lbs. per cube difference. I am not sure on the disadvantages of older, boxier cars, just relaying what I'm told.

randy wilson · 12-07-2013, 06:19 PM

If NHRA would back this, the floodgates would open. Wyatt Halden already told me, he'd do a whole article on it, and be at the opener. Let the head company's make the call on the heads, and you have to make tech easy, and I have, what I think are real good solutions, if it ever gets that far. They need to realize, if they do it, you can't announce it one week, and expect it to work the next. It needs to be announced a year in advance, to get ready, and get sponsors ready.

Dick Butler · 12-07-2013, 06:25 PM

Randy, I got permission from my Div Director to run TOP/SS and TOP/STK at national opens and a points meet. That would be a perfect test for your guys to show what it is like to NHRA racers. At least that is one method if BIG officials frown on it.PRI show will be good place to bring up the BASIC MODIFIED idea again as Cheap and popular.

blkjack · 12-08-2013, 08:12 AM

“There is no past that we can bring back by longing for it. There is only an eternally new now that builds and creates itself out of the Best as the past withdraws.” Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

Dick Butler · 12-08-2013, 09:31 AM

SO true. LONGING for it does nothing. Working at it to take something that was good, worked, appealed to racers and spectators and adapt to modern day needs of the sport can be constructive.
Randy maybe discuss for the Class Nationals as a "test". Plenty of lead time.
Come up with a Cash Prize from donations of Mod lovers or Sponsors to make it worth it for cars which are preped and show at Columbus.
Thats how I got the cash for TOP/SS and we paid Hundreds of $ at the meets to Win, R/U, and Semi cars.

12-07-2013, 03:11 PM	#1
randy wilson Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 882 Likes: 0 Liked 22 Times in 22 Posts	Re: OLD Modified Corvettes I just stated tire size as a spec. Don't really care, other then a 10.5 limit would look awful goofy on most old narrowed SS cars. Those cars are still 1\3rd price of the front wheel conversions. I'd say, no two steps, or chips. No computers, or hook-ups for computers. __________________ don,t have one

12-07-2013, 03:48 PM	#2
randy wilson Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 882 Likes: 0 Liked 22 Times in 22 Posts	Re: OLD Modified Corvettes There's a lot of these older cars in the super classes that could be converted. You'd have to relax some of the body restrictions, I think. But, if they have a min. wt. Who cares. They are also cheaper. Also, make all clutch, and shift. We did this by installing a camera to the cage to a car under suspicion, and made them run .02 of their best pass, and .01 in the first 60' __________________ don,t have one Last edited by randy wilson; 12-07-2013 at 03:54 PM.

12-07-2013, 04:31 PM	#3
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: OLD Modified Corvettes Super Gas chassis, Door cars would be a little stretch compared to SS cars but I agree Wt limit would help. ANy age car but NO fwd conversions would really help costs. Guy could chose any cheap chassis he has or could buy. Min Wheel base might be necessary. I agree no computer, maybe recording device. like tach playback ok. 4 barrel class and 2 x 4 class same wt so guys could alternate if they want. Fewest possible classes to start so everyone shows up TOGETHER, Max 3 classes. Lots of really interested people in Simple, Cheap, Fun....

12-07-2013, 05:20 PM	#4
Todd Bailey Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 312 Likes: 31 Liked 33 Times in 17 Posts	Re: OLD Modified Corvettes Lot of old Super Gas cars to be had. When you talk of cheap and inexpensive, I am thinking stock chassis/suspension. Basically about like an old Super Modified car. I like the stick shift only/no electronics part!! Hell, they added the Top Sportsman stuff why not a class or two like this?

12-07-2013, 06:13 PM	#5
randy wilson Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 882 Likes: 0 Liked 22 Times in 22 Posts	Re: OLD Modified Corvettes The year ain't that important to me, but just so everyone knows, an old car will be .05 to ,1 slower then say an F body. I have no problem with a 2 4 barrel class, as long as it's still a cast aluminum intake, and available. As long as there is a min. wt. you'll find there ain't a lot there. We ran every type car in the world over there, and seen nothing except the lbs. per cube difference. I am not sure on the disadvantages of older, boxier cars, just relaying what I'm told. __________________ don,t have one

12-07-2013, 06:19 PM	#6
randy wilson Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 882 Likes: 0 Liked 22 Times in 22 Posts	Re: OLD Modified Corvettes If NHRA would back this, the floodgates would open. Wyatt Halden already told me, he'd do a whole article on it, and be at the opener. Let the head company's make the call on the heads, and you have to make tech easy, and I have, what I think are real good solutions, if it ever gets that far. They need to realize, if they do it, you can't announce it one week, and expect it to work the next. It needs to be announced a year in advance, to get ready, and get sponsors ready. __________________ don,t have one

12-07-2013, 06:25 PM	#7
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: OLD Modified Corvettes Randy, I got permission from my Div Director to run TOP/SS and TOP/STK at national opens and a points meet. That would be a perfect test for your guys to show what it is like to NHRA racers. At least that is one method if BIG officials frown on it.PRI show will be good place to bring up the BASIC MODIFIED idea again as Cheap and popular.

12-08-2013, 08:12 AM	#8
blkjack Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Belle Vernon, PA Posts: 288 Likes: 26 Liked 55 Times in 19 Posts	Re: OLD Modified Corvettes “There is no past that we can bring back by longing for it. There is only an eternally new now that builds and creates itself out of the Best as the past withdraws.” Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

12-08-2013, 09:31 AM	#9
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: OLD Modified Corvettes SO true. LONGING for it does nothing. Working at it to take something that was good, worked, appealed to racers and spectators and adapt to modern day needs of the sport can be constructive. Randy maybe discuss for the Class Nationals as a "test". Plenty of lead time. Come up with a Cash Prize from donations of Mod lovers or Sponsors to make it worth it for cars which are preped and show at Columbus. Thats how I got the cash for TOP/SS and we paid Hundreds of $ at the meets to Win, R/U, and Semi cars. Last edited by Dick Butler; 12-08-2013 at 09:36 AM.