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Old 12-18-2013, 08:54 PM   #1
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No, we were legal. It still has the oxygen sensors so we have to run unleaded.

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your previous post is still on here that you bought gas from the fuel guy at the track , just on a different thread
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Old 12-18-2013, 08:56 PM   #2
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Just so everyone understands. I am a straight up guy and say as I see it
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Old 12-18-2013, 09:59 PM   #3
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I agree that this rule hurts the Intent of Pure Stock.
Having mixed opinion because the original rule was working to bring more cars in to Stock as a Pure Stocker.

Just wondering why this topic was not discussed.
The old rules were working just fine.
Not a lot of us but enough to make the Class interesting.
Drawing in the new cars and Racers interested in giving Class Racing a crack.
That was the intent of Pure Stock.

As for getting the ear of Mike.
Yes...he likes working with me.
Likes the fact of supporting Pure Stock and being an advocate of IHRA racing.
I was making a difference and attracting folks getting interested in Class Racing.
I post on IHRA blogg on LinkedIn.

In the interest of speeding up a detailed tech inspection of a cam.
I get that.

Just think there were other ways to to speed up that process.
Such as having the CamManufacturer declare the Cam was built to the intent of the Rules.
Reputation means everything to a Manufacturer.
A Cam Card Certified. Have it sent to an IHRA Tech person to measure it.

Understand the Reffing part very well.
How can the processes be designed so the Tech Inspection is quick and thorough?
Made a suggestion to have Centers and Dates set up between races just for Tech Inspection.
Meet in mass prepared and assisting the Inspectors.

The number of IHRA National Records set is pathetic compared to NHRA.
More cars Teched will take the National Record challenge.

Other ideas need to collaborated with Racers.
This was a bit of a shocker.

Bottom line..
How can we make IHRA Better for every one than NHRA ?

Dan

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Old 12-19-2013, 09:11 AM   #4
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your previous post is still on here that you bought gas from the fuel guy at the track , just on a different thread
Yes, we bought unleaded gas at the track that is on the list of approved fuels for Stock on the IHRA web site. Also, that was when we were test and tuning late in the summer. That fuel is gone and before we raced in Dallas Thanksgiving weekend we stopped at a gas station for good 'ol 93 octane pump gas.

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Old 12-19-2013, 10:04 AM   #5
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I have mixed opinions on cam/spring rule.
There is probaly 3 factors for this decision,1 is speeds up tech,2 is many newer cars there aren't duration,overlap,spring specs.3 is not up to me to comment on,I'll just say someone loaned out some information and the borrower does'nt seem to want to return it for some reason

I don't really like it but I will be changing my cam,valve springs,then probaly gearing in trans and rear and last but not least I'll be adding about 800-1200 rpm.

I do like that will be able to run under K/S index in NHRA now instead of a little above,so will be able to run @ Bowling Green now without having to finish new engine.

As far as driving pure stockers,later model cars were still drivable,but my older combo I could barely run under and be drivable,so drivability was gone for me along time ago,plus if could drive would still haul I don't like walking home.

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Old 12-19-2013, 10:54 AM   #6
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Hello ALL:
Just had a nice conversation with IHRA in Norwalk this morning.
Mike Baker and Jim Woods are on Vacation and aware of ALL of our comments.
They are reading the comments on Class Racer.

They recognized the new Cam and Spring issue has cause a firestorm.
During our conversation discussed several items with them.
After the Norwalk Management gets back from the holidays they will meet early January and revisit this issue.

I am now speaking for myself.
Just hope they keep the current rules.
Think the reason was to speed up the Tech Process on Pure Stockers.

Actually this was a good useful controversy.
A lot of good stuff will come out of this.

Saying all that.
Everyone have a great holiday break.

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Old 12-19-2013, 11:26 AM   #7
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The number of IHRA National Records set is pathetic compared to NHRA.
You used to get 5 points for a National Record, up to 2x per year. It also used to be with the old points system that if you finished in the Top 10 in the World, you had to go through teardown at some point during the year. With those things combined, you had many more people setting records.
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Old 12-19-2013, 11:52 AM   #8
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Default Re: Pure Stockers New Camshaft Rule !!!

Beginning to look like they just want to transition everyone over to Stock for convenience.
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Old 12-19-2013, 12:10 PM   #9
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Crate motors are now built motors, nothing "crate" or "pure" about them anymore, right?
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