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Old 12-23-2013, 03:55 PM   #1
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Default Re: Pure Stockers New Camshaft Rule !!!

We have a 1000lb Rimac (Can almost check my open pressure.) and an on-car tester (LSM).
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Old 12-23-2013, 05:00 PM   #2
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Not considering the springs issue. I don't see any additional cost between a cam under the new rules and a Bullet cam for today's rule.
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Old 12-23-2013, 07:37 PM   #3
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Not considering the springs issue. I don't see any additional cost between a cam under the new rules and a Bullet cam for today's rule.
The new rules for 2014 under conversation would be damaging to PS.
Consensus is to keep the rules before the Change.

However, Teching a cam require tedious measurement of Duration, Overlap, and measuring the Spring Rate.
Lift is fairly easy. Hence the relaxing of the rules.

However, the new Rules will kill Pure Stock Racing forever !

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Old 12-23-2013, 07:58 PM   #4
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Question for you guys. How many pure stockers made a run in IHRA in 2013? You all sound like this is the end of the world. Are the indexes changing? If not use your cam you are running now.
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Old 12-23-2013, 08:01 PM   #5
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Question for you guys. How many pure stockers made a run in IHRA in 2013? You all sound like this is the end of the world. Are the indexes changing? If not use your cam you are running now.

Your thoughts are spot on. Recently when it was mentioned what a travesty it was with no production cars in the guide so they couldn't run them in pure stock, my first thought was how many cars 5 years old or less ran in pure stock in 2008?
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Old 12-23-2013, 10:45 PM   #6
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Considering NHRA and IHRA only now have updated current Classification Guides there will be more interest. This year there was a record number of PSers built. More already being planned for 2014.

For the uninformed the reason for coming back to PS is fun.
Costs are far lower and maintenance. Lets put it this way.
You do not need exotic parts to keep them alive.

Plus they are the old Stocker rules before CamAGedin!

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Old 12-23-2013, 10:50 PM   #7
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Btw there were 8 Pure Stockers at Darlington.
4 at most of the IHRA races I attended.
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Old 12-24-2013, 12:15 PM   #8
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Question for you guys. How many pure stockers made a run in IHRA in 2013? You all sound like this is the end of the world. Are the indexes changing? If not use your cam you are running now.
This is the best reply to the whole thread.IF there is a rule change,you are not FORCED to do anything.
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Old 12-24-2013, 12:36 PM   #9
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This is the best reply to the whole thread.IF there is a rule change,you are not FORCED to do anything.
Well yes you will have to comply to remain competitive.
Everyone did when they changed the rules for Stock.
Think this would not be any different? More money expense, read Novassdude's posting.
Considering the ROI, drop in Purses and Contingencies it is tough to run a full Stocker today.

The new rules will kill PS ! Like TarHeal, would rather run Brackets.
I like racing real Streetable cars, like Stock was intended to be.

There has been an ill intent coming from racers wanting to kill Pure Stock.
Received dirging comments in the past saying it is not real Stock.
Well, here is your golden opportunity to kill PS. If it happens I am gone.

Despite their ire, there is a growing interest in Pure Stock.
If it is going to survive I will be here to improve our lot.

However we need other advocates to speak up.
Cannot do this alone..

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Old 12-24-2013, 12:49 PM   #10
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Well yes you will have to comply to remain competitive.
Everyone did when they changed the rules for Stock.
Think this would not be any different? More money expense, read Novassdude's posting.
Considering the ROI, drop in Purses and Contingencies it is tough to run a full Stocker today.

The new rules will kill PS ! Like TarHeal, would rather run Brackets.
I like racing real Streetable cars, like Stock was intended to be.

There has been an ill intent coming from racers wanting to kill Pure Stock.
Received dirging comments in the past saying it is not real Stock.
Well, here is your golden opportunity to kill PS. If it happens I am gone.

Despite their ire, there is a growing interest in Pure Stock.
If it is going to survive I will be here to improve our lot.

However we need other advocates to speak up.
Cannot do this alone..

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To remain competitive I assume you mean heads up races. How many of those in pure stock this year? I would guess there are ways to avoid that. Change class, qualifieing position?
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