What to expect

JDEMARZO · 09-20-2007, 11:09 AM

Len, thanks for the insights, will the lowering of the index by 2 tenths (11.55 goes to 11.35) have an effect on the AHPS or will it stay as is with -1.15 being a trigger for review and -1.4 being an automatic? Thanks for your time.

Joe DeMarzo
#1317-B/SA

Randall Klein · 09-20-2007, 11:19 AM

Len, can you update us on the SPEC Super Stock button(s)? I certainly would like to start testing yet this year if the button(s) are significantly different than what I have been using for 10 years....surely this issue has been resolved.

Thanks in advance

TOM WARD · 09-20-2007, 11:22 AM

Len
Thanks for the post and for leting us know what to expect in 2008.

JIM MARSHALL · 09-20-2007, 11:29 AM

Len,

Thanks for the update.

Jim Marshall

JEFF ESSMANN · 09-20-2007, 11:51 AM

len thanks for the information on the class racer fourm it is much appriciated.
my concern is the index adjustments of 2 tenths, this did not fix a problem in my eyes only made it worse. i run a ssja pontiac gto its a 1972 455 h-o motor i am factored at 330 hp and have to weigh 3800 pounds. in 2006 at brainered class there were 7 j cars 6 of us were in the 10.40 to 10.70 range off of an 11.30 index 1car was 10.30 and he wasnt stepping on it, this year he was in the 10.10 range there are several small block chevy combos capable of this look at nitro joes stat sheets. whats held these guys back is the fear of the autofactoring you just give them all another 2 tenths, either the horse power factors are going to have to be corrected. or this index adjustment will put the amc,fords,pontiacs and mopars out of the game.
thanks for listening jeff essmann ss/ja 5780

09-20-2007, 11:58 AM

Len,

Thanks , again for the update...I have talked to many racers like myself who have had problems
sending anything to that e-mail address on Two-Steps !!! Is there another e-mail address we can use??

* thanks in advance for your help, keep up the good work.....

Dave...1033/stock (Dave Ribeiro)

Ron Ortiz · 09-20-2007, 12:07 PM

Thank you Len for the news.
If indexes are dropped by two tenths, what is the triggers and minimum under for class.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA

bsa633 · 09-20-2007, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDEMARZO

Len, thanks for the insights, will the lowering of the index by 2 tenths (11.55 goes to 11.35) have an effect on the AHPS or will it stay as is with -1.15 being a trigger for review and -1.4 being an automatic? Thanks for your time.

Joe DeMarzo
#1317-B/SA

If so...and if Jeff Teuton's statistic is right that would mean the FI cars would keep that advatage for a long time,and cars like some "papercars" or others that has been good at this AHFS-game would be able to dominate for a long time...

Dick Butler · 09-20-2007, 12:27 PM

Len, Could you speak about changes in SS? Will there be GT classes up to match the SS 6.0 and down? These would help with use of the new cars as GT cars. Any combinations of classes or wts? Thanks Dick Butler.

Jared Jordan · 09-20-2007, 12:48 PM

Dropping the indexes would hopefully eliminate some of the sandbagging that happens at national and some divisional events. The AHFS will even out discrepancies over time (even though the system is "broken"). I wholeheartedly approve of this decision!

Would love to see 2-steps gone in Stock, but I think the 4-speed cars should still be allowed to run them.

Love the 7.5 lb/hp class addition. A 3800 lb. Hemi Challenger isn't fun for anyone! Is this class going to be called AA/SA??

No E-Shift for any cars in Stock! Make the drivers do their jobs! If you want the car to shift for you go race SS.

09-20-2007, 11:19 AM	#2
Randall Klein Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska Posts: 785 Likes: 45 Liked 316 Times in 67 Posts	Re: What to expect Len, can you update us on the SPEC Super Stock button(s)? I certainly would like to start testing yet this year if the button(s) are significantly different than what I have been using for 10 years....surely this issue has been resolved. Thanks in advance

09-20-2007, 11:22 AM	#3
TOM WARD Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: GRAND ISLAND FLORIDA Posts: 25 Likes: 1 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What to expect Len Thanks for the post and for leting us know what to expect in 2008. __________________ TOM WARD 2880 STK

09-20-2007, 11:29 AM	#4
JIM MARSHALL Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Indian Land SC Posts: 122 Likes: 246 Liked 337 Times in 46 Posts	Re: What to expect Len, Thanks for the update. Jim Marshall __________________ Jim Marshall 1967 STK

09-20-2007, 11:51 AM	#5
JEFF ESSMANN Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 57 Likes: 10 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: What to expect len thanks for the information on the class racer fourm it is much appriciated. my concern is the index adjustments of 2 tenths, this did not fix a problem in my eyes only made it worse. i run a ssja pontiac gto its a 1972 455 h-o motor i am factored at 330 hp and have to weigh 3800 pounds. in 2006 at brainered class there were 7 j cars 6 of us were in the 10.40 to 10.70 range off of an 11.30 index 1car was 10.30 and he wasnt stepping on it, this year he was in the 10.10 range there are several small block chevy combos capable of this look at nitro joes stat sheets. whats held these guys back is the fear of the autofactoring you just give them all another 2 tenths, either the horse power factors are going to have to be corrected. or this index adjustment will put the amc,fords,pontiacs and mopars out of the game. thanks for listening jeff essmann ss/ja 5780 __________________ Jeff Essmann 5780 ss/ja WEB SITE WITH MY RACECAR

09-20-2007, 11:58 AM	#6
RIBEIRO RACING Guest Posts: n/a	Re: What to expect Len, Thanks , again for the update...I have talked to many racers like myself who have had problems sending anything to that e-mail address on Two-Steps !!! Is there another e-mail address we can use?? * thanks in advance for your help, keep up the good work..... Dave...1033/stock (Dave Ribeiro)

09-20-2007, 11:09 AM	#1
JDEMARZO Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 72 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What to expect Len, thanks for the insights, will the lowering of the index by 2 tenths (11.55 goes to 11.35) have an effect on the AHPS or will it stay as is with -1.15 being a trigger for review and -1.4 being an automatic? Thanks for your time. Joe DeMarzo #1317-B/SA

09-20-2007, 12:07 PM	#7
Ron Ortiz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Englewood, Florida Posts: 989 Likes: 35 Liked 315 Times in 102 Posts	Re: What to expect Thank you Len for the news. If indexes are dropped by two tenths, what is the triggers and minimum under for class. Ron Ortiz U/SA __________________ Ron Ortiz 2102 STK

09-20-2007, 12:27 PM	#9
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: What to expect Len, Could you speak about changes in SS? Will there be GT classes up to match the SS 6.0 and down? These would help with use of the new cars as GT cars. Any combinations of classes or wts? Thanks Dick Butler.

09-20-2007, 12:48 PM	#10
Jared Jordan Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 612 Likes: 196 Liked 532 Times in 118 Posts	Re: What to expect Dropping the indexes would hopefully eliminate some of the sandbagging that happens at national and some divisional events. The AHFS will even out discrepancies over time (even though the system is "broken"). I wholeheartedly approve of this decision! Would love to see 2-steps gone in Stock, but I think the 4-speed cars should still be allowed to run them. Love the 7.5 lb/hp class addition. A 3800 lb. Hemi Challenger isn't fun for anyone! Is this class going to be called AA/SA?? No E-Shift for any cars in Stock! Make the drivers do their jobs! If you want the car to shift for you go race SS. __________________ Jared Jordan 9 B/SA 2024 Jeg's D7 All Star - Stock