Econo Modified

randy wilson · 01-09-2014, 05:52 PM

No Bob, I never thought it was you who asked for the 14 degree heads. It wasn't me for damn sure. They'd listen to me about as much as they do on the spec thingy. I'm just glad you have the vortec bowtie stuff, because you've ran some killer numbers yourself. You have, if I'm not mistaken, ran some 40's, and maybe high 30's? I ran 461X's for a couple of years in SS\CS in 86, and 87. But only went out to NHRA twice, and ran a best .17 under, but we were 170 lbs. over wt. but that's the motor we had, so we ran it. With wt. out might have, I state "might" have ran .25 under.

Dick Butler · 01-09-2014, 06:48 PM

Question. If we were wanting to make this an easy class to get into, and reduce the entry cost, how about the heads planned with the short block being any SS base motor like the flat top 350s . Any comparable Ford Flat top or Chrysler? that would work? All the rest of the rules unchanged.... Kills the compression race but also has a BIG group of potential racers who could just buy heads and keep the SS trick stuff if they did not like how the Econo Mod deal went and wanted to return to the SS class they previously fit. I know Aluminum rods were mentioned and Cam relocation etc were questions but...

Bob Lasko · 01-09-2014, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by randy wilson

No Bob, I never thought it was you who asked for the 14 degree heads. It wasn't me for damn sure. They'd listen to me about as much as they do on the spec thingy. I'm just glad you have the vortec bowtie stuff, because you've ran some killer numbers yourself. You have, if I'm not mistaken, ran some 40's, and maybe high 30's? I ran 461X's for a couple of years in SS\CS in 86, and 87. But only went out to NHRA twice, and ran a best .17 under, but we were 170 lbs. over wt. but that's the motor we had, so we ran it. With wt. out might have, I state "might" have ran .25 under.

Randy,
Did run in the 40's and did come close to the 30's but did not hit them. hopefully this year at Atco Open in April. Should put my engines in you Cobalt lol.

Bob LASKO

randy wilson · 01-09-2014, 07:48 PM

Ha! Thanks Bob. But I'm sure your F body is a little more sorted out then the cobalt. Our 92 camaro ran a best 6.21 in the 1\8th, and a best of 9.82 in the 1\4. The cobalt, with the same drivetrain went 6.16, and 9.76. Both were shifted using the clutch, but when we switched to the clutchless with the SS\DM motor, we only picked up .04. Camaro, 1.29 60 ft, cobalt 1.28 with the the phase 2 bowties, and a 1.26 with the dart buick. There is more left in the cobalt, but I'm almost 59, and Steve Thompson is 49, and we're both a little burned out. Every race they have close is in the dead of summer, and 300 degrees out, and it just ain't as fun as it was when we were 18. When we went to Cordova, it was like 96 degrees, and miserable.

01-09-2014, 05:52 PM	#1
randy wilson Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 882 Likes: 0 Liked 22 Times in 22 Posts	Re: Econo Modified No Bob, I never thought it was you who asked for the 14 degree heads. It wasn't me for damn sure. They'd listen to me about as much as they do on the spec thingy. I'm just glad you have the vortec bowtie stuff, because you've ran some killer numbers yourself. You have, if I'm not mistaken, ran some 40's, and maybe high 30's? I ran 461X's for a couple of years in SS\CS in 86, and 87. But only went out to NHRA twice, and ran a best .17 under, but we were 170 lbs. over wt. but that's the motor we had, so we ran it. With wt. out might have, I state "might" have ran .25 under. __________________ don,t have one

01-09-2014, 06:48 PM	#2
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Econo Modified Question. If we were wanting to make this an easy class to get into, and reduce the entry cost, how about the heads planned with the short block being any SS base motor like the flat top 350s . Any comparable Ford Flat top or Chrysler? that would work? All the rest of the rules unchanged.... Kills the compression race but also has a BIG group of potential racers who could just buy heads and keep the SS trick stuff if they did not like how the Econo Mod deal went and wanted to return to the SS class they previously fit. I know Aluminum rods were mentioned and Cam relocation etc were questions but...

01-09-2014, 07:48 PM	#4
randy wilson Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 882 Likes: 0 Liked 22 Times in 22 Posts	Re: Econo Modified Ha! Thanks Bob. But I'm sure your F body is a little more sorted out then the cobalt. Our 92 camaro ran a best 6.21 in the 1\8th, and a best of 9.82 in the 1\4. The cobalt, with the same drivetrain went 6.16, and 9.76. Both were shifted using the clutch, but when we switched to the clutchless with the SS\DM motor, we only picked up .04. Camaro, 1.29 60 ft, cobalt 1.28 with the the phase 2 bowties, and a 1.26 with the dart buick. There is more left in the cobalt, but I'm almost 59, and Steve Thompson is 49, and we're both a little burned out. Every race they have close is in the dead of summer, and 300 degrees out, and it just ain't as fun as it was when we were 18. When we went to Cordova, it was like 96 degrees, and miserable. __________________ don,t have one