Schubeck lifters

Casey Miles · 01-23-2014, 09:23 AM

I just had a Schubeck lifter loose it's puck, the engine got f**ked. Never put them in any engine again. Use tool steel lifters for now on.

Casey Miles
248H "F" NHRA Stock!

Duane Eiskant II · 01-30-2014, 01:11 PM

Like Todd said you have to stay on top of spring pressures with the puck style lifter. If you dont the cams are so aggresive these days it actually throws the lifter off the lobe, when it comes back down and makes contact the puck gets knocked off. Im extra cautious about spring pressures simply for that reason and probably have WAY to much, but (knock on wood) ive used the same schubecks that Jeff Velde gave me 10 years ago that came out of one of his engines. Same thing applies for the roller lifters, thats the reason they break the wheels off, not enough spring pressure and everything starts bouncing.

pro stock chuck · 01-30-2014, 02:01 PM

Warning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if these are Schubeck dont use them. With Schubeck you dont know if they are the US made or the overseas ones you could have a real problem on your hands. If they are the Smith Machine ones your good to go. Chuck

Jim Hanig · 01-31-2014, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by pro stock chuck

Warning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if these are Schubeck dont use them. With Schubeck you dont know if they are the US made or the overseas ones you could have a real problem on your hands. If they are the Smith Machine ones your good to go. Chuck

Not true the Smith lifters have almost the same failure rate. think smith made the bodys or subecks.

pro stock chuck · 01-31-2014, 01:27 AM

sorry your info is not accurate
here the deal bob smith made the first gen lifter for the first year or so then schubeck move over to different suppliers (cutting cost) and here came the failures. this is accurate. your welcome

Jim Hanig · 01-31-2014, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by pro stock chuck

sorry your info is not accurate
here the deal bob smith made the first gen lifter for the first year or so then schubeck move over to different suppliers (cutting cost) and here came the failures. this is accurate. your welcome

Well I have seen 4or 5 failures last year, sent 1 set back after one failed he check them sent them back 10 later another one failed. I would sell them cheap if your brave enough

Al Reed · 09-04-2015, 09:39 AM

We had SM Lifters (not Schubecks), a puck got scared of 9K+ rpms and decided to leave, did a fair bit of damage. This was at a pro's shop being dynoed when it occurred.
Rights springs, right everything, lifter just flat out failed. Cost a bunch to fix it all....

John Dinkel · 09-04-2015, 04:45 PM

Jim, I have been running them for years with no problems. Installed 5 or 6 cams and ran them flat out.

MR DERBY CITY · 09-04-2015, 06:31 PM

Schubeck lifters.... Buyers beware, A large number of racers have ran them with NO problems, However if they fail they take a lot of good parts with them . Risk vs. Reward ? .....M.J.

GTX JOHN · 09-05-2015, 01:36 AM

We have had a bunch of trouble with them......Smith's too!

I have several near new sets of Smith's Hyd. and the punks can be
removed easily by pulling them out of housing. i am scared to use them.
Can the punks be safely glued back in? I am scared to try....... Smith's
never answers the phone or returns my calls.

Apparently my business means less than nothing to them.....In last 10 to 15 years I have bought no less than 12 sets. they were better when I first started to use them and got them from Schubeck right at his shop in Vegas.
Of nearly a dozen sets........About 4 sets broke!!

01-23-2014, 09:23 AM	#1
Casey Miles Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 706 Likes: 128 Liked 508 Times in 92 Posts	Re: Schubeck lifters I just had a Schubeck lifter loose it's puck, the engine got f**ked. Never put them in any engine again. Use tool steel lifters for now on. Casey Miles 248H "F" NHRA Stock!

01-30-2014, 01:11 PM	#2
Duane Eiskant II Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Alexandria, Va Posts: 501 Likes: 261 Liked 57 Times in 33 Posts	Re: Schubeck lifters Like Todd said you have to stay on top of spring pressures with the puck style lifter. If you dont the cams are so aggresive these days it actually throws the lifter off the lobe, when it comes back down and makes contact the puck gets knocked off. Im extra cautious about spring pressures simply for that reason and probably have WAY to much, but (knock on wood) ive used the same schubecks that Jeff Velde gave me 10 years ago that came out of one of his engines. Same thing applies for the roller lifters, thats the reason they break the wheels off, not enough spring pressure and everything starts bouncing. __________________ Duane Eiskant 1354 Stock/Super Stock

01-30-2014, 02:01 PM	#3
pro stock chuck Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Huntington Beach Ca. Posts: 164 Likes: 21 Liked 53 Times in 17 Posts	Re: Schubeck lifters Warning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if these are Schubeck dont use them. With Schubeck you dont know if they are the US made or the overseas ones you could have a real problem on your hands. If they are the Smith Machine ones your good to go. Chuck

01-31-2014, 01:27 AM	#5
pro stock chuck Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Huntington Beach Ca. Posts: 164 Likes: 21 Liked 53 Times in 17 Posts	Re: Schubeck lifters sorry your info is not accurate here the deal bob smith made the first gen lifter for the first year or so then schubeck move over to different suppliers (cutting cost) and here came the failures. this is accurate. your welcome

09-04-2015, 09:39 AM	#7
Al Reed Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 24 Likes: 2 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Schubeck lifters We had SM Lifters (not Schubecks), a puck got scared of 9K+ rpms and decided to leave, did a fair bit of damage. This was at a pro's shop being dynoed when it occurred. Rights springs, right everything, lifter just flat out failed. Cost a bunch to fix it all....

09-04-2015, 04:45 PM	#8
John Dinkel Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Pinckney, Michigan Posts: 507 Likes: 399 Liked 263 Times in 68 Posts	Re: Schubeck lifters Jim, I have been running them for years with no problems. Installed 5 or 6 cams and ran them flat out. __________________ John Dinkel 3295 STK

09-04-2015, 06:31 PM	#9
MR DERBY CITY VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Derby City, USA Posts: 3,645 Likes: 1,085 Liked 7,967 Times in 1,524 Posts	Re: Schubeck lifters Schubeck lifters.... Buyers beware, A large number of racers have ran them with NO problems, However if they fail they take a lot of good parts with them . Risk vs. Reward ? .....M.J.

09-05-2015, 01:36 AM	#10
GTX JOHN VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Boulder City, Nevada 89005 Posts: 2,733 Likes: 2,803 Liked 2,486 Times in 697 Posts	Re: Schubeck lifters We have had a bunch of trouble with them......Smith's too! I have several near new sets of Smith's Hyd. and the punks can be removed easily by pulling them out of housing. i am scared to use them. Can the punks be safely glued back in? I am scared to try....... Smith's never answers the phone or returns my calls. Apparently my business means less than nothing to them.....In last 10 to 15 years I have bought no less than 12 sets. they were better when I first started to use them and got them from Schubeck right at his shop in Vegas. Of nearly a dozen sets........About 4 sets broke!! __________________ John Irving 741 Stock 741 Super Stock Last edited by GTX JOHN; 09-05-2015 at 01:39 AM.