1969 camaro hood

Adger Smith · 02-15-2014, 12:55 PM

I can tell you that back in the early 70's the spoilers were looked at on my 69 Z-28. Show up with out the rear and you didn't race. Take the front off and you didn't race. Both had to be on the car because it (Z-28) was a "package". If they were looking at "packages" back then they should be today.

FINESPLINE · 02-15-2014, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Adger Smith

I can tell you that back in the early 70's the spoilers were looked at on my 69 Z-28. Show up with out the rear and you didn't race. Take the front off and you didn't race. Both had to be on the car because it (Z-28) was a "package". If they were looking at "packages" back then they should be today.

Well the car I was looking at was a 1967 Camaro 396/375 SS car running B/S with front and rear spoilers that were not even available on a 67 car at all. I just dont understand how they make a big deal out of something insignificant and completely overlook something right in their face.

Rich Biebel · 02-15-2014, 03:45 PM

NHRA and their Tech people have always been somewhat arbitrary on enforcing some rules.

Around 1978-1979 my buddy and co-worker was running C/SM with his '69 Camaro. WCS race or maybe the SummerNat's It had a front spoiler but not the rear. He was told it had to have both or none by a guy we knew as Joe Tech. He was told by another Tech man at the top end after a run it was no problem....

Next time he went up to make a run....Joe Tech told him again to get the front spoiler off the car....Pretty ridiculous but not unusual for that guy....

I ran my '69 Camaro in SS/JA with the cowl hood....and a rear spoiler but no front spoiler and it was a 350/255......Just about every '69 out there had the cowl hood on it back then(1980-1982)......No one ever said a word to me about the hood or the rear spoiler and lack of one in front....

X-TECH MAN · 02-15-2014, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

NHRA and their Tech people have always been somewhat arbitrary on enforcing some rules.

Around 1978-1979 my buddy and co-worker was running C/SM with his '69 Camaro. WCS race or maybe the SummerNat's It had a front spoiler but not the rear. He was told it had to have both or none by a guy we knew as Joe Tech. He was told by another Tech man at the top end after a run it was no problem....

Next time he went up to make a run....Joe Tech told him again to get the front spoiler off the car....Pretty ridiculous but not unusual for that guy....

I ran my '69 Camaro in SS/JA with the cowl hood....and a rear spoiler but no front spoiler and it was a 350/255......Just about every '69 out there had the cowl hood on it back then(1980-1982)......No one ever said a word to me about the hood or the rear spoiler and lack of one in front....

I worked with Joe D......I mean Joe Tech for a couple of years when he was with IHRA and found him to be a complete a** !

Future Super Stocker · 02-15-2014, 05:56 PM

Ok. Why not get a petition together among the Stock and Super Stockers and bring it to NHRA? There is strength in numbers. Before you know it the season will be over. The cost of these classes is out of sight, why shouldn't anyone have a say? The rules have been changed allowing after market cylinder heads and carburetors for some engines because of lack of original equipment availability. Why the big deal over hoods and spoilers?? Come on!!

SS Engine Guy · 02-16-2014, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

I worked with Joe D......I mean Joe Tech for a couple of years when he was with IHRA and found him to be a complete a** !

HaHa....you are right about Joe "tech". But at least he was an a** to everyone. Didn't matter who your sponsor was or what your reputation was in racing. Liked to look for "drivers aids" too. Saw him find a couple. Too bad he wasn't allowed to make it public.
Back to the topic: I remember when you better have the right emblem on the glove box for the package you were claiming or you weren't racing. Maybe that is being too picky but class racing back 30 years ago wasn't for everybody. Infractions considered by tech to be "performance enhancing" bought you a year vacation. A cowl hood or a front spoiler on the wrong combination would have been considered "performance enhancing".

Alan, dead on. Lots more bogus stuff out there than hoods.

Ed Wright · 02-16-2014, 10:57 AM

They have dumbed it WAY down. Between the bogus parts and way too soft indexes. Any dummy can be "fast" now.

chris3racing · 02-16-2014, 11:52 PM

Well I got in this late, but reading about the fact that now that hood on my camaro produces the same horsepower as the illegal fiberglass super stock hood on my Duster that no one will allow me to compete in super stock with. All that performance from hood is really super.

02-15-2014, 12:55 PM	#1
Adger Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Texarkana Ark/TX Posts: 2,446 Likes: 575 Liked 880 Times in 311 Posts	Re: 1969 camaro hood I can tell you that back in the early 70's the spoilers were looked at on my 69 Z-28. Show up with out the rear and you didn't race. Take the front off and you didn't race. Both had to be on the car because it (Z-28) was a "package". If they were looking at "packages" back then they should be today. __________________ Adger Smith (Former SS)

02-15-2014, 03:45 PM	#3
Rich Biebel VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern New Jersey suburbs Posts: 2,315 Likes: 25 Liked 544 Times in 213 Posts	Re: 1969 camaro hood NHRA and their Tech people have always been somewhat arbitrary on enforcing some rules. Around 1978-1979 my buddy and co-worker was running C/SM with his '69 Camaro. WCS race or maybe the SummerNat's It had a front spoiler but not the rear. He was told it had to have both or none by a guy we knew as Joe Tech. He was told by another Tech man at the top end after a run it was no problem.... Next time he went up to make a run....Joe Tech told him again to get the front spoiler off the car....Pretty ridiculous but not unusual for that guy.... I ran my '69 Camaro in SS/JA with the cowl hood....and a rear spoiler but no front spoiler and it was a 350/255......Just about every '69 out there had the cowl hood on it back then(1980-1982)......No one ever said a word to me about the hood or the rear spoiler and lack of one in front.... __________________ Rich Biebel S/C 1479 Stock 147R

02-15-2014, 05:56 PM	#5
Future Super Stocker Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 53 Likes: 1 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: 1969 camaro hood Ok. Why not get a petition together among the Stock and Super Stockers and bring it to NHRA? There is strength in numbers. Before you know it the season will be over. The cost of these classes is out of sight, why shouldn't anyone have a say? The rules have been changed allowing after market cylinder heads and carburetors for some engines because of lack of original equipment availability. Why the big deal over hoods and spoilers?? Come on!!

02-16-2014, 10:57 AM	#7
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: 1969 camaro hood They have dumbed it WAY down. Between the bogus parts and way too soft indexes. Any dummy can be "fast" now. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

02-16-2014, 11:52 PM	#8
chris3racing Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 528 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 1969 camaro hood Well I got in this late, but reading about the fact that now that hood on my camaro produces the same horsepower as the illegal fiberglass super stock hood on my Duster that no one will allow me to compete in super stock with. All that performance from hood is really super.