The Factory Experimental Cars

Steve1118 · 03-11-2014, 01:57 PM

Steve, the car ran quite often at old Keystone Raceway, and several times at PID I saw it. It may well have been owned by Koffel, but I know that Deuker had made several modifications to it. He told me that he had built the car.

I was not aware of it's accident at Quaker.....but it doesn't surprise me. The car scared me to death.

Mr belvedere · 03-11-2014, 10:03 PM

I just heard that Dick Smith who drove the Firebrewed 65 dodge has died

bob george · 03-12-2014, 10:20 AM

Nobody is wrong here about the Richard Duecker car but history has a way of creating confusion.
A. The car was built by Dave Koffel using leftover parts from Chryslers A/FX program.
B. The chassis platform came from a wrecked A-990 from Owensboro Ky.That was wrecked in a towbar towing accident.It was monikered"Outlaw".It was a sedan and converted to a hardtop.
C.Koffel sold the car running to two guys from Cleveland Oh.,Ron Latine and Tom Haner.After unsuccessfully trying to race the car it was sold to Duecker from Chippawa Ohio.The car was in pieces.
D.Duecker had a few mishaps with the car and did a lot of work on it.He purchased some parts from me at the time.
E. I recall the long ago conversation with him and Steve Reasbeck at Keystone about the car and clearly understand Steve recolections.
F.I lost track of any further history of the car.Neither Dave or I recall the last wreck.
G.This information is as good as we can garner and comes from past recollections of some old feeble minds as mine,Steve, and Dave Koffel.Richard Duecker is still alive and Dave and myself have run into him in past years.He ran at Dragway 42 near his home.
H.Jim Kramer is reportedly to have told Dave Koffel that he aquired the T-Bars and K-Member years ago.
Enjoy the time travel of younger days and old minds and hope we helped give some worthwhile information.Based on our memories or lack of.
Respectfully,
Bob

Charlie A · 03-12-2014, 12:20 PM

If this picture goes away, click the link and it "should" take you to a picture of what may be the "Outlaw" mentioned above as a sedan.

http://bearsdragraceingpage.4t.com/c.../images/ol.jpg

Charlie A · 03-12-2014, 01:51 PM

Missouri Mule:

03-11-2014, 01:57 PM	#1
Steve1118 Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Walton's Mountain Posts: 116 Likes: 2 Liked 13 Times in 3 Posts	Re: The Factory Experimental Cars Steve, the car ran quite often at old Keystone Raceway, and several times at PID I saw it. It may well have been owned by Koffel, but I know that Deuker had made several modifications to it. He told me that he had built the car. I was not aware of it's accident at Quaker.....but it doesn't surprise me. The car scared me to death.

03-11-2014, 10:03 PM	#2
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03-12-2014, 10:20 AM	#3
bob george Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 40 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The Factory Experimental Cars Nobody is wrong here about the Richard Duecker car but history has a way of creating confusion. A. The car was built by Dave Koffel using leftover parts from Chryslers A/FX program. B. The chassis platform came from a wrecked A-990 from Owensboro Ky.That was wrecked in a towbar towing accident.It was monikered"Outlaw".It was a sedan and converted to a hardtop. C.Koffel sold the car running to two guys from Cleveland Oh.,Ron Latine and Tom Haner.After unsuccessfully trying to race the car it was sold to Duecker from Chippawa Ohio.The car was in pieces. D.Duecker had a few mishaps with the car and did a lot of work on it.He purchased some parts from me at the time. E. I recall the long ago conversation with him and Steve Reasbeck at Keystone about the car and clearly understand Steve recolections. F.I lost track of any further history of the car.Neither Dave or I recall the last wreck. G.This information is as good as we can garner and comes from past recollections of some old feeble minds as mine,Steve, and Dave Koffel.Richard Duecker is still alive and Dave and myself have run into him in past years.He ran at Dragway 42 near his home. H.Jim Kramer is reportedly to have told Dave Koffel that he aquired the T-Bars and K-Member years ago. Enjoy the time travel of younger days and old minds and hope we helped give some worthwhile information.Based on our memories or lack of. Respectfully, Bob Last edited by bob george; 03-13-2014 at 05:55 PM.

03-12-2014, 12:20 PM	#4
Charlie A VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mississippi Gulf Coast Posts: 2,483 Likes: 68 Liked 87 Times in 63 Posts	Re: The Factory Experimental Cars If this picture goes away, click the link and it "should" take you to a picture of what may be the "Outlaw" mentioned above as a sedan. http://bearsdragraceingpage.4t.com/c.../images/ol.jpg Last edited by Charlie A; 03-12-2014 at 07:22 PM.

03-12-2014, 01:51 PM	#5
Charlie A VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mississippi Gulf Coast Posts: 2,483 Likes: 68 Liked 87 Times in 63 Posts	Re: The Factory Experimental Cars Missouri Mule: