Question about comp eliminator

[cutta]

Originally Posted by FireSail

Don't confuse me. Comp Elim is a handicap start. The Super Elim starts (Super Gas/Super Comp) are heads up within an index. The OP was asking about Comp Elim.

When I first got back to the track. Super Elim drove me nuts. I couldn't figure out why these really fast cars were slow off the line...

Correct me if I missed something.

Dale

"Super" classes are not heads up, they are essentially bracket racing on the same dial in, in which breakouts apply.

Heads up(no breakout) racing is what Comp Eliminator is once eliminations start. It should not be confused or lumped into the same category as the "Super" classes as it is totally different.

[Adger Smith]

Comp racing is a very interesting class. I really don't think you could call it heads up. Like everyone has explained it is run off of an "index" and handicaped starts. I don't think index to index is what is traditionaly called heads up.
I know I'm going to catch hell for this, but it is just another form of shoepolish racing.
Instead of having the shoe polish in your hand NHRA does in the form of the CIC. (Competition Index Control) It is a very well laid out application of the CIC by the rules. Go too fast, as the rules dictate, and your index changes. There really isn't any shoepolish, it's INK in NHRA's index books. It is that simple, except it takes a large application of money and a huge amount of work & smarts to be able to go too fast. Go too fast to win a round and you can hurt your chances for the next round, unless your holding power, or worse yet you can hurt your chances of winning in that class until you step your program up. It's the Sportsman version of Pro Stock.

[FireSale]

Originally Posted by cutta

"Super" classes are not heads up, they are essentially bracket racing on the same dial in, in which breakouts apply.

Heads up(no breakout) racing is what Comp Eliminator is once eliminations start. It should not be confused or lumped into the same category as the "Super" classes as it is totally different.

OK. In my thinking heads up is an even start. Heads up and handicap are at the light, breakout rule is at the stripe.

Dale

[Tom P]

Not really a breakout rule, you can go as fast as you want but it can cost you for the next round or next race. There have been some flagrant examples of that in the past couple years in the turbo classes and AA/AM where racers have gone way, way under the index.
It sometimes can kill the class to make it very hard to be competitive. That is why you see racers changing classes between races or in the case of todays results it looks like David Rampy might have slowed to save his index and the A/EA class.

Look at Round 2
http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCSt...UMMIT#indextop

Al Ackerman and Scotty Richardson are good racers but having to go that fast to win will cost them next round.

[FireSale]

Originally Posted by Tom P

Not really a breakout rule, you can go as fast as you want but it can cost you for the next round or next race. There have been some flagrant examples of that in the past couple years in the turbo classes and AA/AM where racers have gone way, way under the index.
It sometimes can kill the class to make it very hard to be competitive. That is why you see racers changing classes between races or in the case of todays results it looks like David Rampy might have slowed to save his index and the A/EA class.

Look at Round 2
http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCSt...UMMIT#indextop

Al Ackerman and Scotty Richardson are good racers but having to go that fast to win will cost them next round.

Thanks. I understand the difference between breakout and CIC now.

Dale

[G Schenck]

Not to confuse anybody anymore but this weekend the mineshaft rule is in effect. Which means you have to run -66 under to receive permanent index.

Greg