NHRA Levied Actions Against Don Davidson

Fireofficer5 · 05-14-2014, 11:21 AM

It comes to a point where no matter how accurate the testing the equipment, the sanctioning body, (in any sport) has to quit measureing
to such a minuit fraction.
There are too many other variables in the atmosphere.
As has been stated in other posts, temperature, dust, etc.

Some times there is a tie.

Mark Lewis · 05-14-2014, 11:31 AM

Do not know the details of the valve train in Don's engine. Valve lift could have checked good by the builder. After some runs, do not know how many, there could be a rocker arm stud that has bent or flexed enough to cause a different reading in the cam lift. Been there and done that, just did not get the t-shirt. Had 2 lobes that were .015 short and Holt decided he wanted to check 1 more lobe. Guess what ,.002 too much. Tapped the stud with a hammer and set up again and it checked below spec, although too late. There are variables that could give the wrong reading beside the lifter.

njk53 · 05-14-2014, 12:57 PM

Although I don't agree with a $1,000 fine for such a tiny degree of an infraction, I do agree that the blatent cheaters should be fined for obvious rule violations. A $1,000 fine isn't chicken feed to most sportsman racers including myself and sure is an incentive for the obvious rule breakers to legalize their engines..

JRyan · 05-14-2014, 02:40 PM

Right Randall,

Fred didn't look right when I wrote it, but then I'm old.

Jerry

Ed Wright · 05-14-2014, 02:57 PM

It gets worse.

farmco r/sa · 05-15-2014, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ed wright

it gets worse.

lol !

Adger Smith · 05-15-2014, 09:01 AM

What gets worse Ed? LOL
Don't we know it....Living proof here.
It is bad when I can't remember & have to ask my Alzheimer ailing Father ;~)

FireSale · 05-15-2014, 11:36 AM

I went back through the race results and can't quite figure out when the DQ happened. Don shows in the qualifying list for Ennis but is gone from the elimination ladder at DragRaceCentral. At what point in the race did the teardown occur?

Dale

Mike Brogniez · 05-15-2014, 12:15 PM

The fine seems excessive, especially for those who do not have deep pockets and the communication could certainly be better so all can understand the cause/logic and learn from the experience.
NHRA and racers should find and agree to a more structured way to handle such situations and communication.
To this day I always found the NHRA field representatives to be fair and dedicated and I only wish the same could be said about the higher levels of the organization which ultimately call the shots.
MB

Tom Moock · 05-15-2014, 12:22 PM

If NHRA is going to use their adjustable lifter to check lift in tear down, they should list a place to buy the same lifter. Tom

05-14-2014, 11:21 AM	#1
Fireofficer5 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 89 Likes: 36 Liked 33 Times in 20 Posts	Re: NHRA Levied Actions Against Don Davidson It comes to a point where no matter how accurate the testing the equipment, the sanctioning body, (in any sport) has to quit measureing to such a minuit fraction. There are too many other variables in the atmosphere. As has been stated in other posts, temperature, dust, etc. Some times there is a tie.

05-14-2014, 11:31 AM	#2
Mark Lewis Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 349 Likes: 64 Liked 207 Times in 44 Posts	Re: NHRA Levied Actions Against Don Davidson Do not know the details of the valve train in Don's engine. Valve lift could have checked good by the builder. After some runs, do not know how many, there could be a rocker arm stud that has bent or flexed enough to cause a different reading in the cam lift. Been there and done that, just did not get the t-shirt. Had 2 lobes that were .015 short and Holt decided he wanted to check 1 more lobe. Guess what ,.002 too much. Tapped the stud with a hammer and set up again and it checked below spec, although too late. There are variables that could give the wrong reading beside the lifter.

05-14-2014, 12:57 PM	#3
njk53 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: East China, MI Posts: 504 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: NHRA Levied Actions Against Don Davidson Although I don't agree with a $1,000 fine for such a tiny degree of an infraction, I do agree that the blatent cheaters should be fined for obvious rule violations. A $1,000 fine isn't chicken feed to most sportsman racers including myself and sure is an incentive for the obvious rule breakers to legalize their engines.. __________________ Nelson Kowal Stock 345

05-14-2014, 02:40 PM	#4
JRyan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aberdeen SD Posts: 645 Likes: 30 Liked 112 Times in 31 Posts	Re: NHRA Levied Actions Against Don Davidson Right Randall, Fred didn't look right when I wrote it, but then I'm old. Jerry

05-14-2014, 02:57 PM	#5
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: NHRA Levied Actions Against Don Davidson It gets worse. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

05-15-2014, 09:01 AM	#7
Adger Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Texarkana Ark/TX Posts: 2,446 Likes: 575 Liked 880 Times in 311 Posts	Re: NHRA Levied Actions Against Don Davidson What gets worse Ed? LOL Don't we know it....Living proof here. It is bad when I can't remember & have to ask my Alzheimer ailing Father ;~) __________________ Adger Smith (Former SS) Last edited by Adger Smith; 05-15-2014 at 09:02 AM. Reason: SP

05-15-2014, 11:36 AM	#8
FireSale VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Lakewood Washington Posts: 1,407 Likes: 29 Liked 237 Times in 126 Posts	Re: NHRA Levied Actions Against Don Davidson I went back through the race results and can't quite figure out when the DQ happened. Don shows in the qualifying list for Ennis but is gone from the elimination ladder at DragRaceCentral. At what point in the race did the teardown occur? Dale __________________ Dale Shearon 68 Mustang 6394

05-15-2014, 12:15 PM	#9
Mike Brogniez Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Montreal Posts: 476 Likes: 7 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: NHRA Levied Actions Against Don Davidson The fine seems excessive, especially for those who do not have deep pockets and the communication could certainly be better so all can understand the cause/logic and learn from the experience. NHRA and racers should find and agree to a more structured way to handle such situations and communication. To this day I always found the NHRA field representatives to be fair and dedicated and I only wish the same could be said about the higher levels of the organization which ultimately call the shots. MB

05-15-2014, 12:22 PM	#10
Tom Moock Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 801 Likes: 1 Liked 10 Times in 6 Posts	Re: NHRA Levied Actions Against Don Davidson If NHRA is going to use their adjustable lifter to check lift in tear down, they should list a place to buy the same lifter. Tom __________________ Tom Moock 5704 STK