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Old 04-24-2007, 03:07 PM   #101
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In stock there should be no buttons what's so ever, no line lock (except standard shift) and no 2 steps. High speed 2 step only. People that are good in footbrake will still be good, but it will take a tool out of the hands of the people that doing this as a job. It will even out the playing field. The buttons are nothing but delay boxes mechanically. For the people that can't seem to catch a light, there sould be deep staging allowed again. Prestage like is only there to tell you when you are approaching the starting line and that's it. If the front wheel is on the line, what's the difference where it is on the line?
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Old 04-24-2007, 03:52 PM   #102
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If footbraking gives someone an advantage, it's because they are a better driver, and should be rewarded for such. Also I agree that we should eliminate 2-steps/transbrakes, but I don't agree with line locks. Some tires need some heat and by rules we can't burnout past the line.

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Old 04-24-2007, 04:27 PM   #103
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I race at an IHRA track called Immockalee, there if you have a line lock it has to be on a toggle switch, not a momentary. This way it can't be used on the starting line. Like I said before, manual shift cars need a line lock to hold the car still while waiting for the tree.
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Old 04-24-2007, 04:37 PM   #104
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I saw some wagon hit the wall last year at the div 3 race, that was supposed to be caused by the toggle switch line lock.
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Old 04-24-2007, 04:51 PM   #105
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Racers use the toggle switches all the time at Immokalee, no problems so far. It's really easy, you don't need a line lock to do a burn out with an automatic, because you can override the back brakes. So, no auto cars need line locks The manual shifts have a slite problem though.
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Old 04-24-2007, 05:01 PM   #106
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I am concerned about what is the reason for a slow transmission in a Super Stocker ???

Is this the same as a trans button?

I heard that the Slow(delay) transmission is in a lot of super stockers these days . How does this work?

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Old 04-24-2007, 05:06 PM   #107
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Have you tried doing a burnout with a 14" tire and dual-caliper rear brakes without a line-loc? I agree with you guys I'd love to see two-steps, transbrakes, and all that stuff gone, but I fail to see how removing the line-loc is going to cure anything.

For that matter, take away the air shifter too.

Just my $.02

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Old 04-24-2007, 05:27 PM   #108
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I guess I'm of a slightly different opinion...I would LEGALIZE a SPEC trans brake & have it included in Stock! After all, the reason most automatic Stockers are running a two-step is because they don't have a trans brake. Due away with 2-steps in Stock, and let them have a SPEC trans brake and leave off the converter (which is similar to what the stick guys/gals do with a clutch).

Have a SPEC trans brake in Super Stock and Comp (could even be a different 'button'). And as long as I'm at it---put ALL Super Stock cars running with 'hood scoups' that didn't come equiped with them from the FACTORY in Comp (where they belong)!

And my final rule would be, before ANY combo get's hit with Hp...that car must PASS tear down.

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Old 04-24-2007, 05:32 PM   #109
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To Al You Young Guys:

As an ol' guy you are making me proud seeing a new generation
that has some common sense when it comes to stock/super stock.
I was afraid all you younger guys would want the latest trick stuff
but am pleasantly surprised.
As on ol'(only old on the outside) guy I would like to see line locs with
a micro switch,instant on/off with no adjustment possible, 2-steps
for use doing a burn-out only for automatics and burn-outs and
holding rpm at the line for sticks. This way there will be no possibility
for any use of 'buttons' on the launch for automatics.
Julie raised a smart boy it looks like.

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Old 04-24-2007, 05:52 PM   #110
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And as long as I'm at it---put ALL Super Stock cars running with 'hood scoups' that didn't come equiped with them from the FACTORY in Comp (where they belong)!

And the reason is???

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