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Old 06-01-2014, 07:59 AM   #71
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Yes, I did fail to mention that Joe was one of the three designated pair to run first. What I don't understand is why the officials did not pull the many cars that were already paired up and ready to go.

I know that rules are rules and we all know them, but a little common sense and courtesy towards the racer could have been easily applied with no time delay.
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Old 06-01-2014, 08:04 AM   #72
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C&W, sorry to disappoint you, but you're dead wrong, there's zero percent chance NHRA would have waited for anyone in this situation. Its a far different scenario than being in with two cars in late rounds and NHRA waiting for you to get back with the second one. Anyone that runs two cars is afforded that simple courtesy. Joe has been in that situation many times.

This is the designated first 3 pairs deal that seems to make everyone sooooo friggin' happy. Joe is a friend of mine. He has driven my car before. I haven't spoke to him about this, but I can only guess he wasn't aware he was a designated pair.

Simple to address if he was aware, even being last in stock with 15 pairs of sc in between. Drive the stocker to scales, park it, scooter it up to the ss car that dad had waiting in the lanes. End of story. I guarantee it won't happen to him again.

I love to rail against the machine as much as the next guy, but I'm missing where NHRA did anything wrong.
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Old 06-01-2014, 08:54 AM   #73
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I took this video of this C/SA heads up race between Joe Santangelo driving Anthony Bertozzi's 1969 Camaro and Paul Cambria in his 1994 Camaro, Joe gets the win. Its not the best quality, but thought it was still worth posting.

Click on the full screen icon to get a better view of wheelstanding Camaro's.


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg7dFUid-Cw&feature=share&list=UUIPkN6w3aT8XGT1a4QTqU6g"]1969 Camaro C SA Joe Santangelo Supernationals May 31 2014 - YouTube[/ame]
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Old 06-01-2014, 11:34 AM   #74
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Is it posted somewhere who the first 3 pairs for first round or announced?
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Old 06-01-2014, 12:02 PM   #75
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If you look at the bottom of the Eliminator ladder the three highest qualified vehicles, and the competitors they are paired with, will be the first out for the first round. The NHRA started doing this last year.
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Old 06-01-2014, 12:06 PM   #76
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At the NHRA Trailer where you get you Racer Credentials, right by Race schedule and qualifying sheets.

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Old 06-01-2014, 12:53 PM   #77
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If you look at the bottom of the Eliminator ladder the three highest qualified vehicles, and the competitors they are paired with, will be the first out for the first round. The NHRA started doing this last year.
So it's up to the racer to know if they are in the first three pairings?
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Old 06-01-2014, 01:42 PM   #78
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So it's up to the racer to know if they are in the first three pairings?
It's designated on the ladder.
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Old 06-01-2014, 01:44 PM   #79
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I was one of the first three pair out at last years Gators, 2013. I was notified by NHRA e-mail on Tuesday before the race, of the first three pair out rule, which was a new thing.
Nobody came up to me to tell me that I was one of them as I was real slow at that event and qualified in the bottom three. I went to the scales in the morning as I was warming the car up and asked if I was one of the three on the bottom. The tech guy looked it up and said yes, you better get up there. Being an idiot and not having a watch with me i went back to my pit area to pic up my cell phone which was charging. As i got into the car I heard the first pair go out and halled butt to the lane to miss out by about 45 seconds.

This year at the Gators I was on the bottom three again but was told several times by officials who came by the previous day and in the morning.

It is the racers responsibility to know what is going on, but if I had been informed like this year, last years situation would have been avoidable.

I presume that NHRA should be aware of this situation now in its second year of enforcement and take the necessary steps to provide their "customers" with competition related information.

Now if they only would get rid of scales and fuel check during competition unless it is heads up, but that's for another thread

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If you look at the bottom of the Eliminator ladder the three highest qualified vehicles, and the competitors they are paired with, will be the first out for the first round. The NHRA started doing this last year.
But Joe was q'd 40th,that doesn't put him in the first few pairs, Panza was q'd 87
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