worst red light debate, again!

Bob Bender · 07-27-2014, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tim worner

No I don't think they should change the rule. Do I wish they had sometimes? You bet!!!!

Enough said, thanks Tim.

cicero819 · 07-28-2014, 04:24 PM

John, you must have one hell of a memory, I was tarred and feathered in 2011 for that post.I guess I never will learn.lol I like the fact that we can communicate and have fun with each other on some very important question. I've always love being chase, we(slow car) have the first chance to red Light but they(fast car)have the second chance to red light. Only makes it fair. Now let me throw some water on the fire by asking NHRA to allow all cars to deep stage, giving the couple of killer cars in U/SA to be able to compete against all those new race cars from the factory.Claude Ruel

John Kelley · 07-28-2014, 06:28 PM

Mr. DEDMAN hasn't sounded off yet !!!

Ed Fernandez · 07-28-2014, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by John Kelley

Mr. DEDMAN hasn't sounded off yet !!!

Praised be the Lord.

7423 · 07-28-2014, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cicero819

Now let me throw some water on the fire by asking NHRA to allow all cars to deep stage, giving the couple of killer cars in U/SA to be able to compete against all those new race cars from the factory.Claude Ruel

Great idea Claude. You should start a brand new thread on deep staging. I'm sure you will get lots of support from the class racers. Really???

Mark Yacavone · 07-29-2014, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 7423

Great idea Claude. You should start a brand new thread on deep staging. I'm sure you will get lots of support from the class racers. Really???

Yes ,really Charlie.
I'd be interested in YOUR concern..pro or con. ...also anyone else , how it would affect them, personally.

7423 · 07-29-2014, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Yes ,really Charlie.
I'd be interested in YOUR concern..pro or con. ...also anyone else , how it would affect them, personally.

We all use a three amber tree with .50 between the bulbs. I am sure that somewhere inside of 1.5 seconds is a decent RT for anyones racecar. How it affects me? It doesn't, shallow works just fine for me. Last time I deep staged was at a tow vehicle race at Palmdale 30 years ago, on a 5 amber, .50 tree. Convertor technology has come a long way since. But I will say that all of this drama makes for great reading...

Casey Miles · 07-29-2014, 06:53 PM

There is reasoning on deep staging, If you look at Super Street, they have a .5 pro tree because they have to weigh more than a Super Gas or Super Comp car which have a .4 pro tree. The extra weight makes the S/S car not react as quickly, it works the same for a Stock Eliminator car that is heavy with a small cubic inch engine, let them deep stage and square up the racing.

Casey Miles
248H "F" NHRA Stock

Mark Yacavone · 07-29-2014, 07:26 PM

Currently in NHRA racing..
Courtesy staging in effect
Autostart ON.
That means two prestage lights on before anyone can fully stage.
Three lights on, Autostart kicks on and gives the not staged driver approx. 8 seconds to get in, or be timed out. At that point, the tree fires off , still after a random interval.
If a driver wants to go deep, working inside that window, what's the problem?
Why is it illegal?
The PROs can do it.

07-28-2014, 04:24 PM	#2
cicero819 VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Aylmer Quebec, Canada Posts: 1,087 Likes: 31 Liked 70 Times in 31 Posts	Re: worst red light debate, again! John, you must have one hell of a memory, I was tarred and feathered in 2011 for that post.I guess I never will learn.lol I like the fact that we can communicate and have fun with each other on some very important question. I've always love being chase, we(slow car) have the first chance to red Light but they(fast car)have the second chance to red light. Only makes it fair. Now let me throw some water on the fire by asking NHRA to allow all cars to deep stage, giving the couple of killer cars in U/SA to be able to compete against all those new race cars from the factory.Claude Ruel

07-28-2014, 06:28 PM	#3
John Kelley Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Tightwad,TEXAS Posts: 911 Likes: 6 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: worst red light debate, again! Mr. DEDMAN hasn't sounded off yet !!!

07-29-2014, 06:53 PM	#8
Casey Miles Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 706 Likes: 128 Liked 508 Times in 92 Posts	Re: worst red light debate, again! There is reasoning on deep staging, If you look at Super Street, they have a .5 pro tree because they have to weigh more than a Super Gas or Super Comp car which have a .4 pro tree. The extra weight makes the S/S car not react as quickly, it works the same for a Stock Eliminator car that is heavy with a small cubic inch engine, let them deep stage and square up the racing. Casey Miles 248H "F" NHRA Stock

07-29-2014, 07:26 PM	#9
Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,845 Likes: 2,937 Liked 5,157 Times in 1,969 Posts	Re: worst red light debate, again! Currently in NHRA racing.. Courtesy staging in effect Autostart ON. That means two prestage lights on before anyone can fully stage. Three lights on, Autostart kicks on and gives the not staged driver approx. 8 seconds to get in, or be timed out. At that point, the tree fires off , still after a random interval. If a driver wants to go deep, working inside that window, what's the problem? Why is it illegal? The PROs can do it. __________________ "We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for." Will Rogers Last edited by Mark Yacavone; 07-29-2014 at 08:21 PM.