G/SA low qualifier at Thunder Road

442OLDS · 09-14-2014, 11:41 AM

What is this combo? I wasn't even born in 1964.

Alan Roehrich · 09-14-2014, 12:21 PM

There is a single 4 barrel 383/330/280 that seems to come close to fitting the class, looks like it might be a good combination.

442OLDS · 09-14-2014, 12:34 PM

426 originally 365 horsepower, NHRA rated at 291? And people complain about new cars?

Sean Cour · 09-14-2014, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 442OLDS

426 originally 365 horsepower, NHRA rated at 291? And people complain about new cars?

LIKE!
There is lots of "soft" combos out there. Racers just need to be smart enough to recognize them!

james schaechter · 09-14-2014, 02:24 PM

Looks like his cars are always well cared for and don't want for much either. I bet the same car with less than thoughtful testing an prep would be just another .4-.5 under car. It isn't like he bought it complete like the new cars. Going Mopar now 442?

countrypuppy4865 · 09-14-2014, 02:24 PM

Very well put Sean! There are plenty of fast old dodge combos just takes some keyboard surfing. However, it still takes some work it isn't always plug and play just because it's good on paper.

Paul Precht · 09-14-2014, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 442OLDS

426 originally 365 horsepower, NHRA rated at 291? And people complain about new cars?

The 426 Street Wedge is a flat top piston, fairly low comp combo with an AFB that flows 566 and 430 lift hydraulic. From the factory it makes about the same power as a 361/305 which had basically the same carb , heads and cam. If it was such a killer combo, there would be dozens of them out there.

09-14-2014, 03:24 PM

Biggggg differance between writing cars into classes or better yet, reading the class guide and taking advantage. It existed! Hats off to Jim and his guys.
FX_@NHRA.com Fix this please....

John Bender · 09-14-2014, 10:57 PM

All the 383 Dodge and Plymouth engines from 1963 to 1967 had an almost flat intake, 550 cfm afb carb, small exhaust valve heads, and a 430 lift cam. The factory rating horse power was to help in the showroom. Paul covered the 426 street wedge. Hats off to Jim Hale and John Shaul who found a way to make these combinations run very well. A lot of R&D. Not a fat wallet.

Run to Rund · 09-15-2014, 10:25 AM

I wish NHRA would de-rate the Olds 400 engines. I haven't seen any in NHRA since Sam Murray's car in 2006. There are a number of old combinations that would be good to see out there but they were factory rated for showroom appeal and are too high for today's competition.

09-14-2014, 11:41 AM	#1
442OLDS VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Elgin,IL Posts: 1,339 Likes: 5 Liked 282 Times in 103 Posts	G/SA low qualifier at Thunder Road What is this combo? I wasn't even born in 1964.

09-14-2014, 12:21 PM	#2
Alan Roehrich Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 5,107 Likes: 1,564 Liked 1,795 Times in 409 Posts	Re: G/SA low qualifier at Thunder Road There is a single 4 barrel 383/330/280 that seems to come close to fitting the class, looks like it might be a good combination. __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S

09-14-2014, 12:34 PM	#3
442OLDS VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Elgin,IL Posts: 1,339 Likes: 5 Liked 282 Times in 103 Posts	Re: G/SA low qualifier at Thunder Road 426 originally 365 horsepower, NHRA rated at 291? And people complain about new cars?

09-14-2014, 02:24 PM	#5
james schaechter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cumming GA Posts: 1,988 Likes: 1,282 Liked 1,428 Times in 296 Posts	Re: G/SA low qualifier at Thunder Road Looks like his cars are always well cared for and don't want for much either. I bet the same car with less than thoughtful testing an prep would be just another .4-.5 under car. It isn't like he bought it complete like the new cars. Going Mopar now 442? __________________ James Schaechter 3163 STK

09-14-2014, 02:24 PM	#6
countrypuppy4865 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Donaldsonville, LA Posts: 980 Likes: 17 Liked 228 Times in 70 Posts	Re: G/SA low qualifier at Thunder Road Very well put Sean! There are plenty of fast old dodge combos just takes some keyboard surfing. However, it still takes some work it isn't always plug and play just because it's good on paper. __________________ Jimmy "Cooter" Hidalgo, Jr. 4865 E/SA '04 GTO 4865 SS/GA '99 Firebird

09-14-2014, 03:24 PM	#8
Barry Polley Guest Posts: n/a	Re: G/SA low qualifier at Thunder Road Biggggg differance between writing cars into classes or better yet, reading the class guide and taking advantage. It existed! Hats off to Jim and his guys. FX_@NHRA.com Fix this please....

09-14-2014, 10:57 PM	#9
John Bender Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Linden, New Jersey Posts: 142 Likes: 0 Liked 61 Times in 12 Posts	Re: G/SA low qualifier at Thunder Road All the 383 Dodge and Plymouth engines from 1963 to 1967 had an almost flat intake, 550 cfm afb carb, small exhaust valve heads, and a 430 lift cam. The factory rating horse power was to help in the showroom. Paul covered the 426 street wedge. Hats off to Jim Hale and John Shaul who found a way to make these combinations run very well. A lot of R&D. Not a fat wallet. __________________ John Bender 1969 STK

09-15-2014, 10:25 AM	#10
Run to Rund Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 583 Likes: 8 Liked 54 Times in 27 Posts	Re: G/SA low qualifier at Thunder Road I wish NHRA would de-rate the Olds 400 engines. I haven't seen any in NHRA since Sam Murray's car in 2006. There are a number of old combinations that would be good to see out there but they were factory rated for showroom appeal and are too high for today's competition.