**Final decision on two-step usage** - Page 6

LNorton · 10-22-2007, 02:41 PM

Ahh, I love how you guys are proving my point about the attitude of most racers under the N banner.

Beth Denysenko · 10-22-2007, 04:52 PM

Ahhhhh, the 'ol "Divide and Conquer." Sad thing is we are doing it to ourselves. Our focus should always be the upper management, the people actually making/changing the rules, not each other. NHRA racers, whether you like it or not, IHRA has helped keep NHRA as honest as possible. Competition (as in _HRA trying to keep us as customers) is good for US as racers. Let's remember that. As long as we have a choice, hopefully both sanctioning bodies will keep that in mind as they choose their enhancements for us. Pepsi keeps Coke's prices down and vice-versa. So...... carry on.

SSDiv6 · 10-22-2007, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beth Kieffer

Ahhhhh, the 'ol "Divide and Conquer." Sad thing is we are doing it to ourselves. Our focus should always be the upper management, the people actually making/changing the rules, not each other. NHRA racers, whether you like it or not, IHRA has helped keep NHRA as honest as possible. Competition (as in _HRA trying to keep us as customers) is good for US as racers. Let's remember that. As long as we have a choice, hopefully both sanctioning bodies will keep that in mind as they choose their enhancements for us. Pepsi keeps Coke's prices down and vice-versa. So...... carry on.

Beth is right!!!

Brandon Peterson · 10-22-2007, 07:11 PM

i don't understand the big deal with it all you still have to use the brake pedal with a 2 step button i don't think there is any advantage using a 2 step other than your leaving at the exact same RPM and it seems to make 60's 330's the whole deal a little more consistant i am hit and miss with the 2 step and am the same way with footbraken ican win or lose more rounds with the 2 step than with footbrake...so bottom line is if you like the 2 step run it if you like footbrake run it thats why they give the option to do either or anyone can win and loose rounds easy but a 2 step doesn't give anyone a better chance...and if you want to know who i am im Brandon Peterson and i race M/CM in IHRA...deal with it.....michael close call on the world maybe next year woull take it see you at piedmont

tgriffith · 10-22-2007, 07:15 PM

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Chip THELEGEND Johnson · 10-22-2007, 07:35 PM

Anybody want to buy a stocker.

I think I'll use a button next year with a little box and a solenoid hooked to it.

Chip

p.s.

take them out or allow the box no in between

Ed Fernandez · 10-22-2007, 08:44 PM

I saw a little plastic box with a bunch of switches and
what I was told was a diode buried in it.He said he bought it for $100.Showed it to tech guys to prove that it's out there.Anybody caught with one in stock should have the car impounded and the owner/driver banned for life,like IHRA had the balls to do with the Dirty Dozen.

Ed F.
1945 T/SA

Alan Roehrich · 10-22-2007, 08:57 PM

Ed, explain to me what the big deal about a diode is. A diode is just a one way check valve for electricity. There's at least a couple of diodes on every stocker, they're in the alternator.

Yes, I agree it IS possible to cheat, with electronics. I just find the mass hysteria amusing.

Robert Pare Racing · 10-22-2007, 09:02 PM

Where is Top Fool when we really need him?

Speedracer · 10-22-2007, 09:33 PM

It seems to me that if you can have a conversation on a cell phone or connect to the internet via a wireless network,then the technology is there (or soon will be) to operate a two step via a wireless remote switch.
The drag racer of the future will not have to react to the tree,shift,or drive the finish line.Technology will advance to the point where there is nothing for the "driver" to do.

10-22-2007, 02:41 PM	#51
LNorton Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: RacerTees.com Posts: 505 Likes: 0 Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Final decision on two-step usage Ahh, I love how you guys are proving my point about the attitude of most racers under the N banner. __________________ Lee Norton - N229 STK IHRA H/FIA - NHRA O/SA RacerTees.com

10-22-2007, 04:52 PM	#52
Beth Denysenko Live Reporter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: NW Indiana Posts: 426 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Final decision on two-step usage Ahhhhh, the 'ol "Divide and Conquer." Sad thing is we are doing it to ourselves. Our focus should always be the upper management, the people actually making/changing the rules, not each other. NHRA racers, whether you like it or not, IHRA has helped keep NHRA as honest as possible. Competition (as in _HRA trying to keep us as customers) is good for US as racers. Let's remember that. As long as we have a choice, hopefully both sanctioning bodies will keep that in mind as they choose their enhancements for us. Pepsi keeps Coke's prices down and vice-versa. So...... carry on. __________________ Beth Denysenko P/SA 330 www.moneymakerracing.net

10-22-2007, 07:11 PM	#54
Brandon Peterson Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 436 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Final decision on two-step usage i don't understand the big deal with it all you still have to use the brake pedal with a 2 step button i don't think there is any advantage using a 2 step other than your leaving at the exact same RPM and it seems to make 60's 330's the whole deal a little more consistant i am hit and miss with the 2 step and am the same way with footbraken ican win or lose more rounds with the 2 step than with footbrake...so bottom line is if you like the 2 step run it if you like footbrake run it thats why they give the option to do either or anyone can win and loose rounds easy but a 2 step doesn't give anyone a better chance...and if you want to know who i am im Brandon Peterson and i race M/CM in IHRA...deal with it.....michael close call on the world maybe next year woull take it see you at piedmont

10-22-2007, 07:15 PM	#55
tgriffith Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 187 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Final decision on two-step usage .. Last edited by tgriffith; 10-22-2007 at 07:32 PM.

10-22-2007, 07:35 PM	#56
Chip THELEGEND Johnson Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 284 Likes: 223 Liked 281 Times in 79 Posts	Re: Final decision on two-step usage Anybody want to buy a stocker. I think I'll use a button next year with a little box and a solenoid hooked to it. Chip p.s. take them out or allow the box no in between

10-22-2007, 08:44 PM	#57
Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK Posts: 5,879 Likes: 38 Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts	Re: Final decision on two-step usage I saw a little plastic box with a bunch of switches and what I was told was a diode buried in it.He said he bought it for $100.Showed it to tech guys to prove that it's out there.Anybody caught with one in stock should have the car impounded and the owner/driver banned for life,like IHRA had the balls to do with the Dirty Dozen. Ed F. 1945 T/SA __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA

10-22-2007, 08:57 PM	#58
Alan Roehrich Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 5,115 Likes: 1,572 Liked 1,829 Times in 414 Posts	Re: Final decision on two-step usage Ed, explain to me what the big deal about a diode is. A diode is just a one way check valve for electricity. There's at least a couple of diodes on every stocker, they're in the alternator. Yes, I agree it IS possible to cheat, with electronics. I just find the mass hysteria amusing. __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S

10-22-2007, 09:02 PM	#59
Robert Pare Racing Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mother Earth Posts: 265 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: Final decision on two-step usage Where is Top Fool when we really need him? __________________ Rapare-Racing.com Last edited by Robert Pare Racing; 10-22-2007 at 09:02 PM. Reason: punctuation

10-22-2007, 09:33 PM	#60
Speedracer Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 59 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Final decision on two-step usage It seems to me that if you can have a conversation on a cell phone or connect to the internet via a wireless network,then the technology is there (or soon will be) to operate a two step via a wireless remote switch. The drag racer of the future will not have to react to the tree,shift,or drive the finish line.Technology will advance to the point where there is nothing for the "driver" to do.