Want a list of SS or Stk cars sitting.

[randy wilson]

I agree, but Brodix spec head racing is alive and well in roundly round land.

[Dick Butler]

Thanks for the responses. I have been busy at work.
No not a claimer class.
Yes I am dedicated or persistantly interested in helping start a basic class for SS or STK where you dont have to spend $50K for the motor or become extinct next week by a bogus HP rating because HP is subjective, CU IN is objective. A 350 this week is 350 next week. A 295 HP this week "Might be "305 Next week or worse. A class of 9 or 10 NHRA former record holders could be gone when someone discover a 265 HP 454 in your class and can run.5 to .7 faster in INDY without factoring.
Yes I have experience, 30 or 35 Wallys in my house.?five Indy Class wins in GT/AA, One year won class at 5 National events and that was no bye runs.. SS/EA vette which won many class trophies.I won Indy Points meet and RU at at least two others.Not to brag but to inform people I have been there and loved it.
Now each and every car I have owned, sweat over day and nights I LOVED. They ran well but each was made extinct by a bogus HP rating for or against it.
They CANNOT factor cubic inchs but you know the risk of HP ratings staying unfair of becoming unfair overnight...
That said- Modified type class of lb/cubic inch allowing you to use your 69 camaro, 70s Dart, or mustang with a Brodix head, 350 cubic inch stick or auto would be a level field if you LIMIT the options and tech the class. Or as I have seen the DR350 Chevy motor
sealed could be a one motor class with low budget. Brodix can tech a head of question and all three have been flowed and are very close to equal.
No al rods, no knife edge cranks, no external oil pump. Same carbs and no fab manifolds.
See the point ? Create a level field with NO modifications of a motor (SEALED) or Lb/cubic inch with very limited rules on mods and TECH them.

[Todd Leitner]

Some sort of GT classes in stock might be interesting, newer engines, or crate engines in older cars. Some more choices instead of the antiques we run now.

[Dick Butler]

Nova dude. If your car is a chevy would you buy an $1800 Complete motor and go racing ? What if the class was given an index in Stk or SS and you could run at Points races till enough cars showed up to have a heads up race?

[Chris1529]

Originally Posted by Todd Leitner

Some sort of GT classes in stock might be interesting, newer engines, or crate engines in older cars. Some more choices instead of the antiques we run now.

Todd,

you are kidding.... right?

[Dick Butler]

Todd, unfortunately a GT stk class does not address costs, factoring or.....again just another place to pour money.

[Chris1529]

[QUOTE=Dick Butler;447433]Todd, unfortunately a GT stk class does not address costs, factoring or.....again just another place to pour money.[/QUOTE

since when does GT stock not exist?

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Ron Middleton

I know some teams that buy up to 10 motors, dyno them all, then sell off the all but 2 of the engines. No money savings there and still unequal. Same would happen in drag racing.
JMT.

Thank you, Ronnie

I addressed the same thing in another "heads up" thread.
Add in ; Fresh tires all the time
Highest dollar ,lightest clutch
Chassis dyno time
New valve springs every race, and so on..

Easy to see why the guy with the most money would dominate any kind of heads up deal.
The fuel costs and entry fees alone are too great today for racers to travel to a race without an even chance of winning.
It's a whole different world than when Super Modified took off in the 70's.
...In my opinion

[Mark Yacavone]

(double post)


Might as well add : I think independent class national type event are the way to go.
Best of both worlds
Who wouldn't want to watch the SS/K Shootout for example ?

[randy wilson]

I think Dick has at least some of those concerns addressed. Single disc clutch only, 10.5 in dia. Min. No counter wts. No computers, lots of other restrictions. Crate motors may have a problem, specified head, not so much. I've personally flowed 4 sets of Brodix spec, and they are all consistently mediocre.