2015 Rules - Page 3

Rich67stang · 10-30-2014, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck Beach

Great the new cars are in there own class but they are still in stock & super stock, how is this going to help the old iron for qualifying at Indy?

Baby Steps...lol

ATI Performance Products · 10-30-2014, 01:30 PM

Damn now I have to cut new vinyl for both cars and try and figure out where they fit again....Glad I have all winter. Very glad to see new classes for the new cars, that should make the Pre 2008 car owners happy.

However....where are the indexes listed? If they are soft, and all the new cars are 1.0+ under there will be all the same amount of of crying going on. If they are tough then you will have an ever increasingly number of new car owners crying.

Does this mean that all the FS cars in stock run heads up and off their indexes like the "factory shootout" now? Does my 2009, 6.1 Hemi that could "only" go .839 under and not make the show at Indy this year have a chance to qualify?

So far this is just a list with a bunch of letters.

Mike Taylor 3601 · 10-30-2014, 01:31 PM

saw stock replacement radiator few years ago was all alum. tanks and all looked like copper brass radiator except tanks were welded to core
Mike Taylor 3601

Sean Marconette · 10-30-2014, 01:38 PM

Chuck,
Hopefully they will have to live and die by the same sword as everyone else with AHFS. Then it will take care of itself, not quickly though.

Not that this affects S/SS, Pro stock bike and car are Sunoco only on fuel now.

The aluminum radiator has been needed for some time, even the 80's cars and finding a good core has become expensive. I can't imagine what you guys with the older cars spend on one.

Sean

SSDiv6 · 10-30-2014, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich67stang

2008 and newer CobraJets/Dragpacks/Copo are in their own classes now, so have at it! Good move by NHRA. SS/CS index should get lowered next year with the acceptance of "aftermarket heads", another good move by NHRA.

Yep, it is a great move for making the GM products go faster since it will make legal the use of the Chevy LS cast iron and aftermarket 11, 15 and 18 degree cylinder heads!

The Ford N351 cylinder head cannot compete against the GM offerings.

cutta · 10-30-2014, 02:07 PM

Still don't get why you would create separate GT classes for post 2008 combos without lowering the weight break. Your still eliminating a lot of the combos that people could potentially run.

GUMP · 10-30-2014, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew Hill

Finally! Glad 2008 and later cars are in their own classes now......

I read COPO, Cobra Jet, and Drag Pak, not the regular production models.

Anyone know the deal on the chassis certs and SFI stuff?

SSGT Mustang · 10-30-2014, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SSDiv6

Yep, it is a great move for making the GM products go faster since it will make legal the use of the Chevy LS cast iron and aftermarket 11, 15 and 18 degree cylinder heads!

The Ford N351 cylinder head cannot compete against the GM offerings.

Exactly. I don't see a reason to celebrate. I think that it's a cheap shot by NHRA.

Eric Merryfield · 10-30-2014, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ATI Performance Products

Damn now I have to cut new vinyl for both cars and try and figure out where they fit again....Glad I have all winter. Very glad to see new classes for the new cars, that should make the Pre 2008 car owners happy.

However....where are the indexes listed? If they are soft, and all the new cars are 1.0+ under there will be all the same amount of of crying going on. If they are tough then you will have an ever increasingly number of new car owners crying.

Does this mean that all the FS cars in stock run heads up and off their indexes like the "factory shootout" now? Does my 2009, 6.1 Hemi that could "only" go .839 under and not make the show at Indy this year have a chance to qualify?

So far this is just a list with a bunch of letters.

Glad I didn't get replacement letters for mine yet! A lot of garage ornaments till the indexes come out....It would also hurt new car attendance if the license requirement isn't managed....ie SS/JA and down is a no-license zone which helps those that can't/don't want to get license....not sure how they will manage that in the new car kiddie pool....

Eric

Dick Butler · 10-30-2014, 02:53 PM

Great to see the old and new separation to help because of the inability to adequately factor but once again more and more separation of cars into smaller and smaller classes. I know its all a dial in on points meets etc but .....At least that part of the problems is solved...

10-30-2014, 01:30 PM	#22
ATI Performance Products Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Maryland Posts: 66 Likes: 0 Liked 9 Times in 1 Post	Re: 2015 Rules Damn now I have to cut new vinyl for both cars and try and figure out where they fit again....Glad I have all winter. Very glad to see new classes for the new cars, that should make the Pre 2008 car owners happy. However....where are the indexes listed? If they are soft, and all the new cars are 1.0+ under there will be all the same amount of of crying going on. If they are tough then you will have an ever increasingly number of new car owners crying. Does this mean that all the FS cars in stock run heads up and off their indexes like the "factory shootout" now? Does my 2009, 6.1 Hemi that could "only" go .839 under and not make the show at Indy this year have a chance to qualify? So far this is just a list with a bunch of letters. __________________ ATI Racing

10-30-2014, 01:31 PM	#23
Mike Taylor 3601 VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Somerset,Ky Posts: 1,348 Likes: 297 Liked 248 Times in 87 Posts	Re: 2015 Rules saw stock replacement radiator few years ago was all alum. tanks and all looked like copper brass radiator except tanks were welded to core Mike Taylor 3601

10-30-2014, 01:38 PM	#24
Sean Marconette Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 976 Likes: 780 Liked 274 Times in 76 Posts	Re: 2015 Rules Chuck, Hopefully they will have to live and die by the same sword as everyone else with AHFS. Then it will take care of itself, not quickly though. Not that this affects S/SS, Pro stock bike and car are Sunoco only on fuel now. The aluminum radiator has been needed for some time, even the 80's cars and finding a good core has become expensive. I can't imagine what you guys with the older cars spend on one. Sean __________________ Sean Marconette 84 Mustang 5060 SS/N

10-30-2014, 02:07 PM	#26
cutta Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 347 Likes: 0 Liked 5 Times in 2 Posts	Re: 2015 Rules Still don't get why you would create separate GT classes for post 2008 combos without lowering the weight break. Your still eliminating a lot of the combos that people could potentially run. __________________ Adriel Paradise, Paradise Racing Team Driver/Crew Chief(at least my dad claims me to be) B.S. Mechanical Engineering, University of Arkansas

10-30-2014, 02:53 PM	#30
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: 2015 Rules Great to see the old and new separation to help because of the inability to adequately factor but once again more and more separation of cars into smaller and smaller classes. I know its all a dial in on points meets etc but .....At least that part of the problems is solved...