NHRA Releases New Class Indexes - Page 2

Mike Keener · 11-27-2014, 02:09 PM

The 350 COPO will run FS/H as well.

curtis hieb · 11-27-2014, 02:53 PM

What I don’t get is where did they get there numbers and why are some .25 some 20 some 10 and some got no change? Seems like discrimination,what happened to the factoring system or why do we have a system???? I think it is a joke.

Nitro Joe Jackson · 11-27-2014, 06:04 PM

I did see I got them to change the SS/AA -SSA/A deal, made SS/AA back to meaning SS/AAutomatic, there was 3 cars that ran SS/AA this year that was in wrong class (SS/AA ment SS/AA stick and the automatic class was SSA/A, like really)

Dan Johnson · 11-27-2014, 07:41 PM

Got a question regarding the CJ Mustangs with the 352 engine. Why are some rated at 330 HP and others get by with only 285???

Tom Moock · 11-27-2014, 07:43 PM

Jeff, how do known what classes your car fits until they list hp`s, if they use stick hp, and you run stock you lose 63 hp. or do the stick cars gain 63 hp in stock? Tom

Jeff Teuton · 11-27-2014, 08:06 PM

Tom, as far as I know, the factored hp is the same. Short version on Stock, you are in a new class, mostly Bayou Self (little Cajun humor there), and if you are an automatic, .05 lower index. I guess a 9 lb class (old C/S) is still a 9 lb class at the stick index. Super Stock, on the other hand, gets hit above SS/DA. .10 hit for SS/EA to .25 (me) in SS/KA. GT gets the same treatment.

Michael Beard · 11-27-2014, 09:28 PM

I inquired about possible weight breaks for automatics, like the 5% deal the GT Truck classes get, which also have sticks and autos combined. They said they hadn't decided yet.

Peter Ash · 11-27-2014, 09:36 PM

I inquired about hp factors and they stay the same. Manual and auto are still separate hp factors in FS class

Mike Keener · 11-27-2014, 09:50 PM

From my understanding even though sticks and autos have been combined in the FS & FSS class there will be no new HP factors used to determine your cars total weight. The stick and the automatic cars will continue to use the same HP figures they already have for the transmission being used.

For example in the case of the 2014 427/430 2014 FS/C (old BB classes) COPO Camaro- the automatic HP factor is 454 HP, and the stick factor is 430 HP with the exact same engine. Now these two cars/engines have the privilege of racing each other heads up in the same class. Given a 140 weight advantage it seems like a field day for most stick cars. Because the stick factors remain virtually unscathed (in most classes) perhaps we will see more stick cars next year since in most cases they enjoy a tremendous advantage in the HP factoring?

curtis hieb · 11-27-2014, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Johnson

Got a question regarding the CJ Mustangs with the 352 engine. Why are some rated at 330 HP and others get by with only 285???

Super stock is 289 and stock is 330

11-27-2014, 02:09 PM	#11
Mike Keener Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 294 Likes: 102 Liked 24 Times in 13 Posts	Re: NHRA Releases New Class Indexes The 350 COPO will run FS/H as well. __________________ Mike Keener A/S B/S C/SM

11-27-2014, 02:53 PM	#12
curtis hieb Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 125 Likes: 5 Liked 9 Times in 8 Posts	Re: NHRA Releases New Class Indexes What I don’t get is where did they get there numbers and why are some .25 some 20 some 10 and some got no change? Seems like discrimination,what happened to the factoring system or why do we have a system???? I think it is a joke.

11-27-2014, 06:04 PM	#13
Nitro Joe Jackson VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Loudonville, Ohio or where ever the Nitro Lounge is parked Posts: 2,293 Likes: 58 Liked 67 Times in 19 Posts	Re: NHRA Releases New Class Indexes I did see I got them to change the SS/AA -SSA/A deal, made SS/AA back to meaning SS/AAutomatic, there was 3 cars that ran SS/AA this year that was in wrong class (SS/AA ment SS/AA stick and the automatic class was SSA/A, like really) __________________ Nitro Joe Jackson STK 3431 nitrojoe@neo.rr.com

11-27-2014, 07:41 PM	#14
Dan Johnson Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: SD Posts: 7 Likes: 20 Liked 6 Times in 1 Post	Re: NHRA Releases New Class Indexes Got a question regarding the CJ Mustangs with the 352 engine. Why are some rated at 330 HP and others get by with only 285???

11-27-2014, 07:43 PM	#15
Tom Moock Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 801 Likes: 1 Liked 10 Times in 6 Posts	Re: NHRA Releases New Class Indexes Jeff, how do known what classes your car fits until they list hp`s, if they use stick hp, and you run stock you lose 63 hp. or do the stick cars gain 63 hp in stock? Tom __________________ Tom Moock 5704 STK

11-27-2014, 08:06 PM	#16
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	Re: NHRA Releases New Class Indexes Tom, as far as I know, the factored hp is the same. Short version on Stock, you are in a new class, mostly Bayou Self (little Cajun humor there), and if you are an automatic, .05 lower index. I guess a 9 lb class (old C/S) is still a 9 lb class at the stick index. Super Stock, on the other hand, gets hit above SS/DA. .10 hit for SS/EA to .25 (me) in SS/KA. GT gets the same treatment. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK

11-27-2014, 09:28 PM	#17
Michael Beard VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,060 Likes: 0 Liked 13 Times in 9 Posts	Re: NHRA Releases New Class Indexes I inquired about possible weight breaks for automatics, like the 5% deal the GT Truck classes get, which also have sticks and autos combined. They said they hadn't decided yet. __________________ Michael Beard - NHRA/IHRA 3216 S/SS

11-27-2014, 09:36 PM	#18
Peter Ash Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 262 Likes: 2 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: NHRA Releases New Class Indexes I inquired about hp factors and they stay the same. Manual and auto are still separate hp factors in FS class __________________ Peter Ash 6100 STK Last edited by Peter Ash; 11-27-2014 at 09:56 PM. Reason: d

11-27-2014, 09:50 PM	#19
Mike Keener Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 294 Likes: 102 Liked 24 Times in 13 Posts	Re: NHRA Releases New Class Indexes From my understanding even though sticks and autos have been combined in the FS & FSS class there will be no new HP factors used to determine your cars total weight. The stick and the automatic cars will continue to use the same HP figures they already have for the transmission being used. For example in the case of the 2014 427/430 2014 FS/C (old BB classes) COPO Camaro- the automatic HP factor is 454 HP, and the stick factor is 430 HP with the exact same engine. Now these two cars/engines have the privilege of racing each other heads up in the same class. Given a 140 weight advantage it seems like a field day for most stick cars. Because the stick factors remain virtually unscathed (in most classes) perhaps we will see more stick cars next year since in most cases they enjoy a tremendous advantage in the HP factoring? __________________ Mike Keener A/S B/S C/SM Last edited by Mike Keener; 11-27-2014 at 09:52 PM.