According to the ahfs, nhra press releases and a letter

[Bruce Noland]

Not really Charley.

Big Hint # 2: Read the 8th paragraph of the ahfs.

More to come!

[Charley Downing]

Bruce So tell me how a exhibition class that doesn't not have a assigned hp factor only a min weight and index can receive hp.

I think the big problem here is some of you old ***** clowns don't want to change
You guys would rather see stk/ ss die a slow death like comp eliminator is doing now. All because no one wants to change with the times. God forbid we try to get new racers involved in stk and SS.

I know the answer will just sue NHRA again like Bruce does everytime he has a problem.

Bruce if anyone knows how AHFS works it's me.

[Bruce Noland]

The man of unlimited insults has declared himself as an ahfs expert. Perhaps you can explain the intent of the 8th paragraph of the ahfs. FYI, I have never sued nhra. A man of your great knowledge should know that. My question again. Who gave the FS/X cars an ahfs pass?

[Charley Downing]

Danny and Bruce B gave them a free pass. I would not need to insult you if you just used your head a little.


Bruce ask Larry hill who he learned AHFS from.

[Bruce Noland]

Originally Posted by Charley Downing

Danny and Bruce B gave them a free pass. I would not need to insult you if you just used your head a little.


Bruce ask Larry hill who he learned AHFS from.

So, you feel the need to insult people who don't agree with your version of the facts. What does that say about you?

You have failed to offer any feedback on the 8th paragraph of the ahfs. I guess for obvious reasons.

The 8th paragraph of the ahfs:

To decrease the potential for horsepower/index adjustments when favorable atmospheric (i.e. "mineshaft") and/or track conditions may have contributed to extraordinary performance the nhra has developed a system to protect the racers' horsepower/indexes. If at the conclusion of qualifying the first competitor in the bottom half of the field is -.850 seconds or more under the class index, the Q and E Data will not be used for the mid-year and year end reviews. This will only apply to qualified fields of 32 or more cars. Automatic changes due to runs of -1.20 or more under the respective index will still count at these events. At any event where the Factory Showdown is held, no runs by Showdown cars will be used in mineshaft calculations.

This is just one piece of information that when combined with other solid facts makes a pretty fair argument that the ahfs is still regulating the FS/X cars. It is also good to have a couple of names (Danny Gracia and Bruce Bachelder) to begin our efforts. There are people at nhra who may take issue with this ahfs exemption. Especially, since it is not laid out in the ahfs and specifically because the ahfs currently regulates these cars.

Don't forget that the FS guys are claiming to be Stockers. And, don't forget, according to all nhra information that they are actually class racing in the FS Showdown until the final round between the two classes. Each class winner will get a class wally.

More to come.

[Charley Downing]

Bruce you are the one that keeps beating this subject. 90% of us stk racers don't care what NHRA does with fx cars and it's class. We're just happy new racers are running stock. I really don't give a f@cj what the 8th paragraph of the AHFS says. These cars are not going to get any change until the seasons over. And everyone knows you and a few other ***** clowns sued NHRA a few years back that's no secret.

[Bruce Noland]

Originally Posted by Charley Downing

Bruce you are the one that keeps beating this subject. 90% of us stk racers don't care what NHRA does with fx cars and it's class. We're just happy new racers are running stock. I really don't give a f@cj what the 8th paragraph of the AHFS says. These cars are not going to get any change until the seasons over. And everyone knows you and a few other ***** clowns sued NHRA a few years back that's no secret.

But Charley, just a few minutes ago you were the ahfs expert and now you have reduced yourself to an expletive spewing fellow. What happened? Sputter all you want but I have never been part of any lawsuit against nhra. I have a mild prediction that the FS/X cars will not be part of the Indy Stock sheet this year. Maybe 50/50.

[Brett C]

"The decision to adjust horsepower or to reduce the index will be at the discretion of the NHRA Tech Department."

Just assuming someone within the NHRA Tech Department decided to give a free pass on the AHFS to the Factory Stock Showdown when run?

Or

"Runs at all NHRA National, Sports National, and LODRS events, including those at altitude factored race tracks, are included in the 1.200-second-or-more-under analysis. No runs made during National Opens, test and tune, time trials, or races within a race (i.e. Jegs Allstar eliminations, Stock / Super Stock Combos) are included in the 1.200-second-or-more-under review or adjustment."

Again assuming the Factory Stock Showdown is considered a race within a race?