NHRA and AHFS

[Charley Downing]

But yet you can set the C/SA record at -1.40 at a national open with no affect on HP factor.
So. -1.20 gets you HP at a national event but -1.40 at a national open no HP. Sounds like a good system to me.

[Bryan Worner]

I'm pretty sure that if the conditions are mineshaft, per the new mineshaft rule, runs of -1.20 under the index do not get automatic hp. I could be wrong, but that's how I interpret the rule. It is supposed to prevent getting hp in "mineshaft" air.

[Larry Hill]

Look at the 11th paragraph of the AHFS. Runs of 1.20 and above always count.

[Jeff Teuton]

1.20 applies except at National Opens. The mineshaft is only for the 1.00 under trigger. That rule you read must be in Dutch Arabic or Roman Numerals or something.

[Steve Calabro]

" No runs made during National Opens, test and tune, time trials, or races within a race (i.e. Jegs Allstar eliminations, Stock / Super Stock Combos) are included in the 1.200-second-or-more-under review or adjustment."

[Bryan Worner]

I never actually read the whole mine shaft rule, but you would think mineshaft is mineshaft and no runs would get penalized! What does mineshaft mean for Comp? Can they still get a permanent hit if it's mineshaft for them?

[Larry Hill]

1.33 under during qualifying at the Jegs Allstar no AHFS!


If the racer uses the 1.33 under qualifying time to get on the sheet for either Stock or Super Stock eliminator at that same national event the AHFS will apply. That seems fair.


If that scenario works for the All Stars, why does this not apply to the Factory Showdown cars?


Let the Showdown put on the good show without AHFS, but when they use that same qualifying time to place themselves on the qualifying sheet for the eliminator let the AHFS apply.

[Nick Heath]

Originally Posted by Bryan Worner

I never actually read the whole mine shaft rule, but you would think mineshaft is mineshaft and no runs would get penalized! What does mineshaft mean for Comp? Can they still get a permanent hit if it's mineshaft for them?

Comp cars can still get a permanent CIC in mineshaft conditions, but the trigger moves from -0.61 to -0.66. So a -0.66 run will be a .01 permanent hit, -0.67 will be a .02 hit, and so on.

[Jeff Stout]

Originally Posted by Nick Heath

Comp cars can still get a permanent CIC in mineshaft conditions, but the trigger moves from -0.61 to -0.66. So a -0.66 run will be a .01 permanent hit, -0.67 will be a .02 hit, and so on.

This sounds like a much easier and better idea. If mineshaft conditions exist then raise the hit. EX: 1.05 instead of 1.00 1.25 instead of 1.20 Or whatever increase seems reasonable. Then let AHFS does its job.

To me if your running that fast in any condition mineshaft or not don't you think motor should get HP with any combo? I do. It must have been a soft combo that was protected and potential was shown.

Im speaking in general and not finger pointing any 1 particular combo

[Mike Carr]

Originally Posted by Bryan Worner

I never actually read the whole mine shaft rule, but you would think mineshaft is mineshaft and no runs would get penalized! What does mineshaft mean for Comp? Can they still get a permanent hit if it's mineshaft for them?

Bryan, Comp racers get a 'nickel' extra to play with. If the first car in the bottom half of the field in qualifying (#17 in a 32 car field) is -.61 or more under, the mark for a permanent hit goes from -.610 to -.660. Maybe S/SS could get something similar (i.e. -1.25 or -1.30 for an automatic hit).