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Old 08-19-2015, 09:03 AM   #1
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Default Re: Super Comp getting to be rediculous

personally I think lowering the index on all 3 classes a full second would help the classes. Most all can run that fast now. Might make things a little more attractive to the couple of fans that are in the stands. I have no dog in the fight so this is just my impression.
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Old 08-19-2015, 09:57 AM   #2
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All the super classes are getting this way. What I think would be fun and put some back into the drivers hands is to change the index every round. For example let first round be a X.90, then the winners would get the new index for next round on their time slip. Lets say next round is X.83 and this could go on and vary 2 tenths from slow to fast for the entire duration of the event. This not only puts it in the drivers hand but also the tuners hand as well. Too many people have found the .90 number and do not change the stop numbers.
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Old 08-19-2015, 11:40 AM   #3
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All the super classes are getting this way. What I think would be fun and put some back into the drivers hands is to change the index every round. For example let first round be a X.90, then the winners would get the new index for next round on their time slip. Lets say next round is X.83 and this could go on and vary 2 tenths from slow to fast for the entire duration of the event. This not only puts it in the drivers hand but also the tuners hand as well. Too many people have found the .90 number and do not change the stop numbers.
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Interesting idea....
I can guarantee it's not as easy as finding the .90 number and leaving it. Lol
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Old 08-19-2015, 05:23 PM   #4
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Default Re: Super Comp getting to be rediculous

This is nothing new and yes has gotten much worse. I have won rounds by .001 and lost by the same amount or less.....going back over 10 years. Lost in rd 1 at a Lucas race by .0006 and had a ..010 RT and ran a 8.903....2004 That one hurt but the opponent was one of the best drivers there is....

The only advantage is MPH and everyone knows it and most have moved up but as everyone moved up nothing changed....except we are going faster and using the brakes can get you in trouble a lot easier...

I am also one who thinks the indexes should have been sped up and now 7.90 is not too fast for S/C. It won't change the tight racing but at least it wouldn't look as bad with less stop time....

If you win today it is as much luck as skill to me.....

The latest-greatest devices sure seem to be making it even tighter...

At a recent MASCA race in June....I think about 7 cars cars went 8.90x during time runs for qualifying......there was maybe 32-34 cars
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Old 09-21-2015, 06:14 PM   #5
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If you win today it is as much luck as skill to me.....

I have to agree with Rich - winning (in any class not just SC) is a about an equal amount of skill & luck. No one can control what happens in the other lane. You can lay down a near perfect run, and from time to time, have an opponent be a just a hair better (on that pass) and get the win when your package might have been enough to beat everyone else in that round. That can be particularly frustrating if it happens at a few consecutive races.
I've experienced the same thing over the years in SS & stock.
The flip side?? Sometimes you have a killer package in a round when you don't need it, like where an average package would have won it.... only to have an average package in the next round and get drilled by someone with a killer package. That's just the way break out racing is - I think there might be a little bit of an advantage to the higher mph car in general, but personally I don't see it as any advantage. There are strategies the driver of slower car can utilize to guard against a strategy of a faster car holding & pacing.
From a mental preparation perspective - if a racer goes into a round feeling like they are at a disadvantage it is going to have an effect their game..... their reaction time.... or maybe the wrong decision or second guessing at the finish line.
Anyway - that's my perspective on things (having only raced SC a few times).
I have found some things to be the same as bottom bulb racing - know your car, be prepared, pay attention, & focus on your own game.
It might be because it's something different and a new challenge to me, but I think it is an absolute blast and I wouldn't be in a rush to change anything (except possibly the index).
Going to a 5 second staging rule, or an instant green would make the results more chaotic I believe - one resulting in more red lights and the other more late lights - the better drivers would have more of an advantage. IMO - the current rules work pretty well to equalize the playing field. That's what I think, for whatever it's worth.
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Old 09-22-2015, 11:02 AM   #6
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anybody looking to enter SG or SC at Keystones, send me a "im" or e-mail.
I'm pulling our entry and will wait till your ready to enter
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All the super classes are getting this way. What I think would be fun and put some back into the drivers hands is to change the index every round. For example let first round be a X.90, then the winners would get the new index for next round on their time slip. Lets say next round is X.83 and this could go on and vary 2 tenths from slow to fast for the entire duration of the event. This not only puts it in the drivers hand but also the tuners hand as well. Too many people have found the .90 number and do not change the stop numbers.
Just my thoughts
i like it....
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